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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 8055770" data-attributes="member: 68748">Well, other than the Druid who could cast Barkskin, the Wizard or Sorcerer who could cast Magic Armor and Shield, the Rogue with a good DEX along with their Uncanny Dodge class feature ...A Paladin with an 18 CHA at Level 10 isn't going to hit anything in combat because that same Paladin ignored STR to get that 18 CHA. So, again, a better chance to make a save just to suck for a few more rounds.At level 10, since that was your example, a 16 STR is pathetic.Actually, it's not. Martials in general suffered in 3.5 systemically. But the Fighter is better than the Paladin, at least.No, I absolutely have. It's not my fault you're not acknowledging the evidence.So part of your argument for the Paladin's strength is that it can rely on another, definitely more capable, member of the party? Why should I just not play another class instead? You just undermined your pro-Paladin argument.</blockquote>