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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4343682" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>I'm a DM 99% of the time. On those rare occasions when I do play I prefer bards or courtier-type characters because I don't really care about rolling dice. That being said, as a player I'm plenty willing to partner up with a power gamer or two and sing their praises - someone has to kill the monsters.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Power gamers can be somewhat boring to DM if I do it too much. They tend to ignore the more subtle elements of the game. However, that's just a difference of preferred game style and not a case of one person being wrong.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Ever watch a football game and see a player argue with the ref? What happens? Does the ref just arbitrarily give the other team 10 points and let them put 5 extra players on the field? No. The offending player gets a red card. Simlarly, if a player in your game is criticizing your calls in a disrespectful way, then it's not a DM/Player issue anymore, but a Person/Person issue. I never meant to suggest that either DMs OR Players should tolerate rudeness from each other.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>But how is the "encounter powers" situation any different than a PC hiding behind a wall to avoid getting shot with an arrow? Is that "exploiting" a gap in the rules? Or using them intelligently? How do you know that the player is trying to feel smarter than the other players? Does he say that? A player that is rude to other players is not a Dungeons and Dragons problem, it's a real life problem, and should be handled in the same way as if you were hosting a party and one of your friends was rude to another.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>In the OP you explicitly said, under option 3, that killing the player was a way to handle this situation. If I was a player, I'm not sure I'd care if someone wanted to play an Eladrin or not. I'm not sure why I should care if another player wanted to use 2 bastard swords. So how exactly would having someone in my adventuring party that is better at killing things than I am be ruining my fun?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 4343682, member: 30001"] I'm a DM 99% of the time. On those rare occasions when I do play I prefer bards or courtier-type characters because I don't really care about rolling dice. That being said, as a player I'm plenty willing to partner up with a power gamer or two and sing their praises - someone has to kill the monsters. Power gamers can be somewhat boring to DM if I do it too much. They tend to ignore the more subtle elements of the game. However, that's just a difference of preferred game style and not a case of one person being wrong. Ever watch a football game and see a player argue with the ref? What happens? Does the ref just arbitrarily give the other team 10 points and let them put 5 extra players on the field? No. The offending player gets a red card. Simlarly, if a player in your game is criticizing your calls in a disrespectful way, then it's not a DM/Player issue anymore, but a Person/Person issue. I never meant to suggest that either DMs OR Players should tolerate rudeness from each other. But how is the "encounter powers" situation any different than a PC hiding behind a wall to avoid getting shot with an arrow? Is that "exploiting" a gap in the rules? Or using them intelligently? How do you know that the player is trying to feel smarter than the other players? Does he say that? A player that is rude to other players is not a Dungeons and Dragons problem, it's a real life problem, and should be handled in the same way as if you were hosting a party and one of your friends was rude to another. In the OP you explicitly said, under option 3, that killing the player was a way to handle this situation. If I was a player, I'm not sure I'd care if someone wanted to play an Eladrin or not. I'm not sure why I should care if another player wanted to use 2 bastard swords. So how exactly would having someone in my adventuring party that is better at killing things than I am be ruining my fun? [/QUOTE]
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