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<blockquote data-quote="JediSoth" data-source="post: 5615068" data-attributes="member: 13882">I think you misunderstand, and it's possible I wasn't clear enough in my original post.I'm not saying game mechanics discussions are inherently inferior to any other type of conversation. I'm saying I do not like when that is ALL someone can talk about when they talk about a game. If you're telling me about the last session of a game you played and all you can talk about is how statistically you're able to always do X amount of damage and have X% chance to resist everything the DM throws at you because you took X feat from Y and Z feat from W and basically gamed the system, but can't tell me what the plot of the last adventure was because you were too busy crunching the numbers to get optimum damage with the least amount of effort and risk to yourself, that is a conversation I don't care about.This is a thread about personal opinions, after all. I do not hold myself above people who derive pleasure from the mathematics behind the game. I'm simply saying that to me, the game is more than that and I derive no enjoyment or interest from discussions that revolve solely around topics of game statistics, mathematics, crunch, mechanics, etc. I do not play RPGs so I can &quot;beat&quot; the system. I play to experience an arc with my character and to grow that character as organically as possible (i.e. I don't plan &quot;builds&quot; beyond a level or two). If you game that way, and you enjoy it, more power to you. It's great you're able to take enjoyment from the hobby. Just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong because, obviously, we game for different reasons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JediSoth, post: 5615068, member: 13882"] I think you misunderstand, and it's possible I wasn't clear enough in my original post. I'm not saying game mechanics discussions are inherently inferior to any other type of conversation. I'm saying I do not like when that is ALL someone can talk about when they talk about a game. If you're telling me about the last session of a game you played and all you can talk about is how statistically you're able to always do X amount of damage and have X% chance to resist everything the DM throws at you because you took X feat from Y and Z feat from W and basically gamed the system, but can't tell me what the plot of the last adventure was because you were too busy crunching the numbers to get optimum damage with the least amount of effort and risk to yourself, that is a conversation I don't care about. This is a thread about personal opinions, after all. I do not hold myself above people who derive pleasure from the mathematics behind the game. I'm simply saying that to me, the game is more than that and I derive no enjoyment or interest from discussions that revolve solely around topics of game statistics, mathematics, crunch, mechanics, etc. I do not play RPGs so I can "beat" the system. I play to experience an arc with my character and to grow that character as organically as possible (i.e. I don't plan "builds" beyond a level or two). If you game that way, and you enjoy it, more power to you. It's great you're able to take enjoyment from the hobby. Just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong because, obviously, we game for different reasons. [/QUOTE]

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