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<blockquote data-quote="CleverNickName" data-source="post: 7553263" data-attributes="member: 50987">Ehhh...probably not, because they haven't done anything to change the result.&nbsp; But it rarely comes up, because when they ask to try again I immediately ask how they are doing it differently.&nbsp; It usually goes down like this.[SBLOCK]Me:&nbsp; &quot;You stand before a stout oak door, clearly locked with an iron padlock.&nbsp; It looks brand new.&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;I get out my tools and try to pick the lock.&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Okay, make a Dex check.&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Rats, I rolled a three.&nbsp; I got a ten on the check.&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Sorry, that isn't enough.&nbsp; You try for a few minutes, but you can't budge the lock.&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Can I try again?&nbsp; That roll was garbage.&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Maybe, what are you going to do differently this time?&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Um...can I pry the padlock off with a crowbar?&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Let's see if it works.&nbsp; Make a Strength check, and the crowbar gives you Advantage.&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Okay, here goes....eight.&nbsp; Even with advantage I'm rolling like garbage!&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Sorry, you put all your weight into it, but it just doesn't budge.&quot;Chux:&nbsp; (to the rogue) &quot;Need some help?&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Can I try again, but with his help?&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Sure.&nbsp; I'll say that both of you are hanging off the crowbar, bouncing up and down, trying to pry the lock off.&nbsp; Sound good?&quot;*both players nod*Me:&nbsp; &quot;Okay.&nbsp; Both of you make an Athletics check, with Advantage since you are both using the crowbar.&nbsp; I'll take the highest result.&quot;Chux:&nbsp; &quot;Woo, nineteen!&quot;Bixby:&nbsp; &quot;Better, a fifteen.&quot;Me:&nbsp; &quot;Fifteen was the number.&nbsp; The stubborn iron padlock finally gives way, and you both tumble to the floor with a clang.&nbsp; The door is opened.&quot;[/SBLOCK]If the player had said &quot;I'll try picking the lock again,&quot; I would have answered &quot;You try for a few minutes, but you can't budge the lock.&quot; I wouldn't ask for a new roll, because nothing has changed.&nbsp; But this has never come up, because I always ask what they are going to do differently this time.&nbsp; I've heard some creative answers (&quot;I try again but with someone else's thieves' tools&quot;, &quot;This time I will cast grease on the lock first,&quot; &quot;I get frustrated and hit it with a hammer,&quot;) but as long as it isn't something silly (&quot;I ask the lock nicely to open itself,&quot; etc.) I'm happy to roll with it.&nbsp; Pun intended.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CleverNickName, post: 7553263, member: 50987"] Ehhh...probably not, because they haven't done anything to change the result. But it rarely comes up, because when they ask to try again I immediately ask how they are doing it differently. It usually goes down like this. [SBLOCK]Me: "You stand before a stout oak door, clearly locked with an iron padlock. It looks brand new." Bixby: "I get out my tools and try to pick the lock." Me: "Okay, make a Dex check." Bixby: "Rats, I rolled a three. I got a ten on the check." Me: "Sorry, that isn't enough. You try for a few minutes, but you can't budge the lock." Bixby: "Can I try again? That roll was garbage." Me: "Maybe, what are you going to do differently this time?" Bixby: "Um...can I pry the padlock off with a crowbar?" Me: "Let's see if it works. Make a Strength check, and the crowbar gives you Advantage." Bixby: "Okay, here goes....eight. Even with advantage I'm rolling like garbage!" Me: "Sorry, you put all your weight into it, but it just doesn't budge." Chux: (to the rogue) "Need some help?" Bixby: "Can I try again, but with his help?" Me: "Sure. I'll say that both of you are hanging off the crowbar, bouncing up and down, trying to pry the lock off. Sound good?" *both players nod* Me: "Okay. Both of you make an Athletics check, with Advantage since you are both using the crowbar. I'll take the highest result." Chux: "Woo, nineteen!" Bixby: "Better, a fifteen." Me: "Fifteen was the number. The stubborn iron padlock finally gives way, and you both tumble to the floor with a clang. The door is opened."[/SBLOCK] If the player had said "I'll try picking the lock again," I would have answered "You try for a few minutes, but you can't budge the lock." I wouldn't ask for a new roll, because nothing has changed. But this has never come up, because I always ask what they are going to do [I]differently[/I] this time. I've heard some creative answers ("I try again but with someone else's thieves' tools", "This time I will cast [I]grease[/I] on the lock first," "I get frustrated and hit it with a hammer,") but as long as it isn't something silly ("I ask the lock nicely to open itself," etc.) I'm happy to roll with it. Pun intended. [/QUOTE]

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