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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doghead" data-source="post: 1939689" data-attributes="member: 8243">Hey ManzanitaThanks for the tips. I also forgot the +2 Knowledge (N&R) bonus to Diplomacy. Do Synergy bonus stack? I don't think you're a power gamer. I think its the nature of the game. The characters I first created when I started playing 3.X were all built around their background, with little regards to the mechanics. This was particularly so in regards to skills (does Marcus come to mind?). I still don't want to mix 'n match to creat super specialists, but I do try and ensure the characters are reasonably competent in their primary area. I can't turn undead till 4th level by when he will have had a few exta points to spend. A +2 Bluff synergy to Diplomacy would give him +15! Kinda scary for a 3rd level character. Ah, I remember, Bluff is a cc skill for a Paladin - I wanted to stay away from cc skills during the build. I just took max ranks in the Aristocrat class skills at first, then added ranks in any paladin class skills.Still, now that you have pointed it out, it almost seems perverse not to make the changes.Currently Version:Skills:* Bluff +7 ________________ [4 ranks, +3 cha]* Diplomacy +13 ___________ [6 ranks, +3 cha, +4 syn]* Handle Animal +7 ________ [4 ranks, +3 cha]* Gather Info +7 __________ [4 ranks, +3 cha]* Intimidate +7 ___________ [4 ranks, +3 cha]* Knowledge (N&R) +8 ______ [6 ranks, +2 int]* Knowledge (religion) +6 _ [4 ranks, +2 int]* Perform (stringed) +7 ___ [4 ranks, +3 cha] * Ride +2 _________________ [4 ranks, +1 dex, -3 armour]* Sense Motive +7 _________ [6 ranks, +1 wis]Tweeked Version (one SP off Knowledge (N&R) and Sense Motive and Diplomacy, two SP (+1 cc rank) added to Bluff, one SP added to Handle Animal.):Skills:* Bluff +8 ________________ [5 ranks, +3 cha]* Diplomacy +14 ___________ [5 ranks, +3 cha, +6 syn]* Handle Animal +8 ________ [5 ranks, +3 cha]* Gather Info +7 __________ [4 ranks, +3 cha]* Intimidate +9 ___________ [4 ranks, +3 cha, +2 syn]* Knowledge (N&R) +7 ______ [5 ranks, +2 int]* Knowledge (religion) +6 _ [4 ranks, +2 int]* Perform (stringed) +7 ___ [4 ranks, +3 cha] * Ride +4 _________________ [4 ranks, +1 dex, +2 syn, -3 armour]* Sense Motive +6 _________ [5 ranks, +1 wis]DarkMaster, its your call. The second version is quite nice, but I'm not really fussed either way.</blockquote>

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