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<blockquote data-quote="Dogbrain" data-source="post: 1485448" data-attributes="member: 14980">Actually Champions II was a supplement, distinct from the second edition of the Champions game.&nbsp; It grafted on a lot of stuff that did not work well with Champions until the complete rewrite of the third edition, at which time it was folded into the main rules.Fuzion was a separate rule system that came after the 4th edition of the Hero/Champions rules.&nbsp; The company that owned the system (I forget who it was by that point) had officially abandoned the Hero system and was trying to sell everybody on Fuzion, which was not quite compatible with Hero.With only a few exceptions, the fifth edition is mechanically identical to the fourth--it's better written, though.Except for speedsters who operate just like the Flash does...&nbsp; (That's an old problem with the game that has never been adequately addressed.&nbsp; All attempts fall flat in one area or another, most of them having to do with Hero system's phased movement rules.)Sound like &quot;Impressive Man&quot;.&nbsp; He walked around naked all the time and was very--&quot;impressive&quot;.&nbsp; He also had an &quot;entangle&quot; attack that I will not describe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dogbrain, post: 1485448, member: 14980"] Actually [I]Champions II[/I] was a supplement, distinct from the second edition of the [I]Champions[/I] game. It grafted on a lot of stuff that did not work well with [I]Champions[/I] until the complete rewrite of the third edition, at which time it was folded into the main rules. Fuzion was a separate rule system that came after the 4th edition of the Hero/[I]Champions[/I] rules. The company that owned the system (I forget who it was by that point) had officially abandoned the Hero system and was trying to sell everybody on Fuzion, which was not quite compatible with Hero. With only a few exceptions, the fifth edition is mechanically identical to the fourth--it's better written, though. Except for speedsters who operate just like the Flash does... (That's an old problem with the game that has never been adequately addressed. All attempts fall flat in one area or another, most of them having to do with Hero system's phased movement rules.) Sound like "Impressive Man". He walked around naked all the time and was very--"impressive". He also had an "entangle" attack that I will not describe. [/QUOTE]

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