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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4600395" data-attributes="member: 7635">See, here is a problem with this mentality; it doesn't work the minute random probability (IE) dice work into the equation.PCs face the lion-share of dice rolls; attacks, saves, etc. They will take more critical hits, fail more saves, and fall into more pit traps than any monster, farmer, or creature the DM runs. If these people are little-better than the farmers they're defending, you end up with the other end of D&D; kleenex-pcs that step up to the ogre, get killed in 1-2 blows, and are replaced by an equally disposable PC. Those superheroic bonuses (be it spells, superior ability score, or even the virtue of levels) are guards against the random power of the d20, who has a nasty habit of failing at dramatically appropriate moments that would turn a heroic act into a pointless waste. If heroism is defined in the act, then yeah, my fighter with a +2 to swim is more heroic for jumping into the river to save a drowning child than a fighter with a +30. In a good fiction story, he'd rescue the kid by sheer luck and determination. In D&D, he's more likely roll poor and drown alongside the kid. Meh, I'll take my Supermen. I get to play them longer.</blockquote>