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<blockquote data-quote="Ktulu" data-source="post: 4600488" data-attributes="member: 13465">I disagree here.&nbsp; Your point is valid, but the possibility of failure is ever-present in the RPG and in the stories you mention.In Star Wars, Anakin was the fated hero to save the day.&nbsp; Unfortunately, the player wasn't paying attention and was seriously irritated that obi-wan was higher level; he ended up with too many dark side points and lost the character.&nbsp; He rolls up his new character, Luke, and the story continues on.&nbsp; Mid-way through the campaign, he meets up with his previous character, now Darth Vader, and finds out that Luke is Vader's son.&nbsp; &quot;That's not true!&nbsp; That's impossible!&quot; says Luke, but the DM chuckles and says that yes, in fact, Padme' did have a child.&nbsp; This time, the player is smarter and doesn't pick up the same amount of darkside points, and is able to redeem his previous character, in the process.In Lord of the Rings you get the same story.&nbsp; Elendil failed his save vs the ring and disbanded the party (Elrond's player was really peeved).&nbsp; The new character, Aragorn, a decendant of Elendil, would succeed on the save and eventually become king.D&amp;D totally allows for this, the players &amp; GM just have to think outside the box-d set.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ktulu, post: 4600488, member: 13465"] I disagree here. Your point is valid, but the possibility of failure is ever-present in the RPG and in the stories you mention. In Star Wars, Anakin was the fated hero to save the day. Unfortunately, the player wasn't paying attention and was seriously irritated that obi-wan was higher level; he ended up with too many dark side points and lost the character. He rolls up his new character, Luke, and the story continues on. Mid-way through the campaign, he meets up with his previous character, now Darth Vader, and finds out that Luke is Vader's son. "That's not true! That's impossible!" says Luke, but the DM chuckles and says that yes, in fact, Padme' did have a child. This time, the player is smarter and doesn't pick up the same amount of darkside points, and is able to redeem his previous character, in the process. In Lord of the Rings you get the same story. Elendil failed his save vs the ring and disbanded the party (Elrond's player was really peeved). The new character, Aragorn, a decendant of Elendil, would succeed on the save and eventually become king. D&D totally allows for this, the players & GM just have to think outside the box-d set. [/QUOTE]

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