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<blockquote data-quote="pickin_grinnin" data-source="post: 6309124" data-attributes="member: 6697674">Is there a problem when a fighter with very low charisma is part of a party that enters into negotiations in a royal court setting?&nbsp; He would be useless in that one type of encounter, but not useless as an overall party member.I think a lot of commenters are coming at it from this direction:- that combat is the most important part of a game- that characters who don't take part in fighting are useless to the party (regardless of their other skills)- that dirt farmers or peasants are unskilled peopleI don't share those assumptions, and have known quite a number of other players and DMs who don't, either.&nbsp; There are many ways of playing and DMing, after all.&nbsp; I'm not addressing this to you in particular, but what amazes me is how many people on both threads seem to be disdainful of or threatened by the idea of someone playing a very non-standard character.&nbsp; On the previous thread, in particular, they vacillated between ignoring my clarifications to my statements and claiming that I was deluded (or lying).&nbsp; The amount of hostility is amazing.&nbsp; It's like they couldn't even conceive of a D&amp;D game that ran differently than they ones they play that didn't require a lot of DM intercession.&nbsp; I see that as a failure of imagination, or (in some cases) some sort of weird insecure defensiveness.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pickin_grinnin, post: 6309124, member: 6697674"] Is there a problem when a fighter with very low charisma is part of a party that enters into negotiations in a royal court setting? He would be useless in that one type of encounter, but not useless as an overall party member. I think a lot of commenters are coming at it from this direction: - that combat is the most important part of a game - that characters who don't take part in fighting are useless to the party (regardless of their other skills) - that dirt farmers or peasants are unskilled people I don't share those assumptions, and have known quite a number of other players and DMs who don't, either. There are many ways of playing and DMing, after all. I'm not addressing this to you in particular, but what amazes me is how many people on both threads seem to be disdainful of or threatened by the idea of someone playing a very non-standard character. On the previous thread, in particular, they vacillated between ignoring my clarifications to my statements and claiming that I was deluded (or lying). The amount of hostility is amazing. It's like they couldn't even conceive of a D&D game that ran differently than they ones they play that didn't require a lot of DM intercession. I see that as a failure of imagination, or (in some cases) some sort of weird insecure defensiveness. [/QUOTE]

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