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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6311617" data-attributes="member: 17106"><p>Can't help you manage the relationship with your group. Could be that you're genuinely pushing boundaries, or that people have unfairly judged you in some way, or that there's simply a genuine misunderstanding all around.</p><p></p><p>Tiefling I would not say is worth an LA. There's a "Lesser Tiefling" in the obscure Player's Guide to Faerun that has no LA (and is probably overpowered). Same for the Lesser Fey'ri from Races of Faerun. There's a variant racial class system <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a" target="_blank">published on the WotC website</a> that lets you take an LA 0 tiefling and decide whether you want to spend another level on it or not.</p><p></p><p>If you're not married to being human, the Maeluth and Wispling (Fiend Folio) are races that are a tad better and get all the benefits of dwarves and halfings (unlike the tiefling who doesn't get the human bonus feat and skill points), respectively, plus a bit more.</p><p></p><p>You could see if the <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/bloodlines.htm" target="_blank">UA Bloodline rules</a> are allowed. With those, you're definitely descended from the outsider of your choice, but you're not paying a cost for a while (and you're getting ability score bonuses).</p><p></p><p>You might ask whether Vasharans (BoVD) count. Their background includes demons, though not as direct ancestors (and you're giving up flexibility on your bonus feat in exchange for nothing, so the group can see you've paid a cost of some sort rather than just saying you're demon-descended).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6311617, member: 17106"] Can't help you manage the relationship with your group. Could be that you're genuinely pushing boundaries, or that people have unfairly judged you in some way, or that there's simply a genuine misunderstanding all around. Tiefling I would not say is worth an LA. There's a "Lesser Tiefling" in the obscure Player's Guide to Faerun that has no LA (and is probably overpowered). Same for the Lesser Fey'ri from Races of Faerun. There's a variant racial class system [URL="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/sp/20040213a"]published on the WotC website[/URL] that lets you take an LA 0 tiefling and decide whether you want to spend another level on it or not. If you're not married to being human, the Maeluth and Wispling (Fiend Folio) are races that are a tad better and get all the benefits of dwarves and halfings (unlike the tiefling who doesn't get the human bonus feat and skill points), respectively, plus a bit more. You could see if the [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/bloodlines.htm"]UA Bloodline rules[/URL] are allowed. With those, you're definitely descended from the outsider of your choice, but you're not paying a cost for a while (and you're getting ability score bonuses). You might ask whether Vasharans (BoVD) count. Their background includes demons, though not as direct ancestors (and you're giving up flexibility on your bonus feat in exchange for nothing, so the group can see you've paid a cost of some sort rather than just saying you're demon-descended). [/QUOTE]
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