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the Hide skill - how do you beat it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 1956543" data-attributes="member: 1956"><p>Hide does not make someone invisible.</p><p></p><p>At the start of battle, someone unnoticed can take a partial round. So he may make one sneak attack because of it (Of course a rogue can still flank an opponent). That is all. How it can ruin a game? Sure, a rogue often inflicts much damage than fighter types. But a rogue does not hit that much often (low BAB). And relatively soft (low hp and not the best AC). In combat, Rogue in 3.0/3.5e is better than thieves in previous editions. But they are not the super-fighter or something.</p><p></p><p>Also, there are a lot of monsters and characters who has uncanny dodge (like rogues and barbarians), can never be caught flat-footed (like minotaur), has blindsight (no need to make spot or listen check to notice someone within range), scent (can detect a rogue via smell),or be immune to sneak attacks, and so on. Hide and surprise tactics can never be a dominative method.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shin Okada, post: 1956543, member: 1956"] Hide does not make someone invisible. At the start of battle, someone unnoticed can take a partial round. So he may make one sneak attack because of it (Of course a rogue can still flank an opponent). That is all. How it can ruin a game? Sure, a rogue often inflicts much damage than fighter types. But a rogue does not hit that much often (low BAB). And relatively soft (low hp and not the best AC). In combat, Rogue in 3.0/3.5e is better than thieves in previous editions. But they are not the super-fighter or something. Also, there are a lot of monsters and characters who has uncanny dodge (like rogues and barbarians), can never be caught flat-footed (like minotaur), has blindsight (no need to make spot or listen check to notice someone within range), scent (can detect a rogue via smell),or be immune to sneak attacks, and so on. Hide and surprise tactics can never be a dominative method. [/QUOTE]
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