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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1956568" data-attributes="member: 478">Hide only works if there is a condition, which lets you hide. Without cover or concealment, there is no (normal) hide.  So, if your rogue hides 20 ft. away from a guard, and then moves out in the open in order to attack him, the guard will see the rogue as soon as she leaves her hiding place... automatically, no spot required.  This would then be the surprise round, which the rogue has to use to move up to the guard (tho, a restricted charge might work, depending on the situation).  Afterwards you roll initiative and only if the rogue beats the guard, a sneak attack can be made after that (unless there are more attackers present who can provide flanking, etc). That's one reason why Improved Initiative is a good feat for rogues.  Though you could be nice and allow the rogue to Move Silently to sneak up to the guard, while he looks away.  Bye Thanee</blockquote>