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<blockquote data-quote="Kemrain" data-source="post: 1961245" data-attributes="member: 12153"><p>I may be totally wrong, but..</p><p></p><p>I was always under the impression that a Rogue could sneak attack an opponent, flanking aside, any time that opponent was denied their dex bonus to AC. I thought it said nothign about your opponent needing to be flatfooted, merely that being flat footed makes you lose your Dex bonus to AC unless you have Uncanny Dodge. Uncanny Dodge doesn't prevent you from being Flatfooted, it merely lets you keep your Dex bonus to AC when you <strong>are</strong> Flatfooted - ie, it wouldn't let you make attacks of opportunity before your action in the first round of combat unless you also had Combat Reflexes.</p><p></p><p>I hear all sorts of people saying that you can sneak attack a flatfooted foe, but no one (that I could notice, I might be unobservant) is making sure to state the 'denied dex bonus' thing. this leads me to doubt myself, abd I don't have my books in front of me to prove it one way or the other. (I don't trust the SRD as far as I can throw it, and given that it's made up of electrons, that's nto very far indeed.)</p><p></p><p>My interpretation of the rules is that someone who successfully hides from an opponent has total consealment, and can sneak attack that opponent at a +2 bonus to hit, just as if they were invisible. I'd like to see this issue resolved, as it's still up in the air for me.</p><p></p><p>- Kemrain the Poorly Hidden.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kemrain, post: 1961245, member: 12153"] I may be totally wrong, but.. I was always under the impression that a Rogue could sneak attack an opponent, flanking aside, any time that opponent was denied their dex bonus to AC. I thought it said nothign about your opponent needing to be flatfooted, merely that being flat footed makes you lose your Dex bonus to AC unless you have Uncanny Dodge. Uncanny Dodge doesn't prevent you from being Flatfooted, it merely lets you keep your Dex bonus to AC when you [b]are[/b] Flatfooted - ie, it wouldn't let you make attacks of opportunity before your action in the first round of combat unless you also had Combat Reflexes. I hear all sorts of people saying that you can sneak attack a flatfooted foe, but no one (that I could notice, I might be unobservant) is making sure to state the 'denied dex bonus' thing. this leads me to doubt myself, abd I don't have my books in front of me to prove it one way or the other. (I don't trust the SRD as far as I can throw it, and given that it's made up of electrons, that's nto very far indeed.) My interpretation of the rules is that someone who successfully hides from an opponent has total consealment, and can sneak attack that opponent at a +2 bonus to hit, just as if they were invisible. I'd like to see this issue resolved, as it's still up in the air for me. - Kemrain the Poorly Hidden. [/QUOTE]
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