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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 6248162" data-attributes="member: 59082">I agree with the OP in that I like the idea of a 20th level fighter not being able to sit and eat a bag of pretzels while a horde of orcs attacks him, but instead has to wade through them, fighting for his life Deathdealer-style. I also like the approach Pathfinder takes with "Mythic tiers" (or whatever it is) as a kind of parallel, rather than a required way that all high level characters need to be. Its sort of like having an 11 on the dial once you get to higher levels. That just seems so obviously in line with 5E's design goals of a relatively simple and tame core game, with modular options.As for the hullabaloo, let's look at what the OP actually wrote:To me, 4th edition had me feeling like I was climbing the creature  ladder amd just killing things until I reached the most powerful  creature left.Taken in a vaccum, that is a pretty harmless statement and shouldn't be viewed as "edition warring," in my opinion. If it is, well, I don't know what to say. I was under the impression that "X sucks" is edition warring but "I don't like this aspect of X edition" wasn't. His statement is more of the latter sort.That said, it sounds like the OP has a reputation as a 4E basher, so I can understand why people got upset. But without that context, and only looking at that sentence above, it seems like a massive over-reaction to a pretty harmless statement of dislike of an aspect of 4E (even though he mistakenly implied that this quality was only applicable to 4E, which a few posters corrected him about).</blockquote>

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