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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8188901" data-attributes="member: 7026617">I think its entirely possible to go &quot;huh, that looks like its difficult, the guy with the 8 INT would probably give up and let someone smarter handle it.&quot;Which is why you do it when you form your internal model of the character, not later.I'll return to the same point I made earlier; if your internal model of an INT 8 character and an INT 16 one is the same, its not good roleplaying.&nbsp; Its either not trying or its developing the model with no reference to the set of numbers that is partly definitional of the character, and I don't believe for a moment either of those is necessary for immersion.This is not saying someone doesn't have the right to do so; it isn't even saying it isn't roleplaying at all (and as I've said, even when it isn't much, token play and avatar play has a long history in the hobby and I'm not going to say it doesn't belong there); its saying its sloppy, and immersion is being used as an excuse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8188901, member: 7026617"] I think its entirely possible to go "huh, that looks like its difficult, the guy with the 8 INT would probably give up and let someone smarter handle it." Which is why you do it when you form your internal model of the character, not later. I'll return to the same point I made earlier; if your internal model of an INT 8 character and an INT 16 one is the same, its not good roleplaying. Its either not trying or its developing the model with no reference to the set of numbers that is partly definitional of the character, and I don't believe for a moment either of those is necessary for immersion. This is not saying someone doesn't have the right to do so; it isn't even saying it isn't roleplaying at all (and as I've said, even when it isn't much, token play and avatar play has a long history in the hobby and I'm not going to say it doesn't belong there); its saying its sloppy, and immersion is being used as an excuse. [/QUOTE]

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