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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 8193027" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>We're not disagreeing on the definition of role playing. And no, I'm not changing the definition either.</p><p></p><p>What can you do when playing a role? Make decisions and take actions. That's it. How do you determine what decisions/actions you take? By playing the role. If you are role-playing in a training exercise, one person might take on the role of a salesperson, and the other a customer. You may not be defining anything more than that, but those are the roles you take.</p><p></p><p>In an RPG, you aren't just playing a halfling cleric of Tymora. You're playing a specific halfling cleric of Tymora. From session to session you don't play a different halfling cleric of Tymora, you are playing the same one.</p><p></p><p>I'm only pointing out that you are (or may be) changing roles when you switch from making decisions based on what is going in the game world to what is going on at the table.</p><p></p><p>Note that I didn't say you aren't role-playing, just that you switched roles.</p><p></p><p>If you make a decision based on something that is happening at the table, between players, rather than between characters, then you are no longer making a decision <em>as </em>Alarac, the halfling cleric of Tymora in the Forgotten Realms, because Alarac doesn't even know those players, that table, or even that planet exists. </p><p></p><p>Many (most?) people may think I'm splitting hairs. Or you may never agree with my assessment. That's fine, and the reality is it's just a game and it doesn't really matter. It is you, after all, that is playing the role of Alarac in the game world, and it's still you making decisions even when you are making them based on stuff that happens outside of Alarac's realm. And I will also reiterate that it isn't bad or wrong to do it any way that you prefer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 8193027, member: 6778044"] We're not disagreeing on the definition of role playing. And no, I'm not changing the definition either. What can you do when playing a role? Make decisions and take actions. That's it. How do you determine what decisions/actions you take? By playing the role. If you are role-playing in a training exercise, one person might take on the role of a salesperson, and the other a customer. You may not be defining anything more than that, but those are the roles you take. In an RPG, you aren't just playing a halfling cleric of Tymora. You're playing a specific halfling cleric of Tymora. From session to session you don't play a different halfling cleric of Tymora, you are playing the same one. I'm only pointing out that you are (or may be) changing roles when you switch from making decisions based on what is going in the game world to what is going on at the table. Note that I didn't say you aren't role-playing, just that you switched roles. If you make a decision based on something that is happening at the table, between players, rather than between characters, then you are no longer making a decision [I]as [/I]Alarac, the halfling cleric of Tymora in the Forgotten Realms, because Alarac doesn't even know those players, that table, or even that planet exists. Many (most?) people may think I'm splitting hairs. Or you may never agree with my assessment. That's fine, and the reality is it's just a game and it doesn't really matter. It is you, after all, that is playing the role of Alarac in the game world, and it's still you making decisions even when you are making them based on stuff that happens outside of Alarac's realm. And I will also reiterate that it isn't bad or wrong to do it any way that you prefer. [/QUOTE]
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