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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8193094" data-attributes="member: 29398">Easy.&nbsp; It's from your saying things like this...... because ignoring the stats is very much under the umbrella of players interpreting those stats however they like.I rather suspect you're putting far too much faith in the players to self-police.Bad faith play is a thing that cannot be ignored, and which rules exist to curtail; and if 5e truly doesn't have any statements that boil down to &quot;your stats to some extent must inform your roleplaying&quot; then that's a very exploitable (and rather egregious) error.If I'm using standard array I can stick the 8 into Int or Wis (whichever one I don't need for my character's class) every time and in theory it'll never matter under your standards, as by your own words I'm free to interpret that 8 however I like; and how I choose to interpret it is that I'm the smartest or wisest person in the room every time and that's what I'm going to role-play.&nbsp; Yes this isn't good-faith play but the only thing that can stop me is the DM, 'cause it seems the rules can't.The physical stats (Str, Dex, Con) almost always have rules attached that state what those stats enable me to do or not do both mechanically and role-play-wise.&nbsp; The other stats (Int, Wis, Cha) largely don't: I can't role-play my Str 8 character as being an expert arm-wrestler because the rules will quickly stop me, but I can role-play my Int 8 character as a genius because the rules don't tell me I can't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8193094, member: 29398"] Easy. It's from your saying things like this... ... because ignoring the stats is very much under the umbrella of players interpreting those stats however they like. I rather suspect you're putting far too much faith in the players to self-police. Bad faith play is a thing that cannot be ignored, and which rules exist to curtail; and if 5e truly doesn't have any statements that boil down to "your stats to some extent must inform your roleplaying" then that's a very exploitable (and rather egregious) error. If I'm using standard array I can stick the 8 into Int or Wis (whichever one I don't need for my character's class) every time and in theory it'll never matter under your standards, as by your own words I'm free to interpret that 8 however I like; and how I choose to interpret it is that I'm the smartest or wisest person in the room every time and that's what I'm going to role-play. Yes this isn't good-faith play but the only thing that can stop me is the DM, 'cause it seems the rules can't. The physical stats (Str, Dex, Con) almost always have rules attached that state what those stats enable me to do or not do both mechanically and role-play-wise. The other stats (Int, Wis, Cha) largely don't: I can't role-play my Str 8 character as being an expert arm-wrestler because the rules will quickly stop me, but I can role-play my Int 8 character as a genius because the rules don't tell me I can't. [/QUOTE]

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