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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8208708" data-attributes="member: 22779">Totally agree with this. At least the player is doing SOMETHING besides just passively sitting at the table, consuming whatever it happens to be that I'm serving up this week.I'd be over the moon if the player was that engaged in the game.&nbsp; However, players who play characters like I see being advocated in this thread, generally won't even put in that much effort.&nbsp; They think that the simple fact that they have shown up this week, dice in hand, is enough.&nbsp; Playing a character shouldn't be easy.&nbsp; It should take some effort.&nbsp; ANY effort and I'm ecstatic.&nbsp; My bar is so low that it's practically lying on the ground.&nbsp; Moles bump their heads on it.But, so many players over the years take the &quot;Oh, well, I'm just playing a game.&nbsp; I'll show up every week, react to whatever the DM puts in front of me, put in zero effort into giving anything back to the DM, and that's okay.&quot;&nbsp; I'm so, so, sick of those players.&nbsp; I'm totally done.&nbsp; You folks can complain that I'm badwrongfunning all your like, but, those players?&nbsp; The ones that show up, put in zero effort into the game beyond the barest minimum?&nbsp; They are not welcome at my table anymore.&nbsp; Give me something, ANYTHING to work with as a DM and I'll move heaven and earth to include it in the game.&nbsp; But, passively sit there and expect me to do the DM Monkey Dance week after week after week?&nbsp; Bugger that.&nbsp; No thank you anymore.&nbsp; I'm so done with that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8208708, member: 22779"] Totally agree with this. At least the player is doing SOMETHING besides just passively sitting at the table, consuming whatever it happens to be that I'm serving up this week. I'd be over the moon if the player was that engaged in the game. However, players who play characters like I see being advocated in this thread, generally won't even put in that much effort. They think that the simple fact that they have shown up this week, dice in hand, is enough. Playing a character shouldn't be easy. It should take some effort. ANY effort and I'm ecstatic. My bar is so low that it's practically lying on the ground. Moles bump their heads on it. But, so many players over the years take the "Oh, well, I'm just playing a game. I'll show up every week, react to whatever the DM puts in front of me, put in zero effort into giving anything back to the DM, and that's okay." I'm so, so, sick of those players. I'm totally done. You folks can complain that I'm badwrongfunning all your like, but, those players? The ones that show up, put in zero effort into the game beyond the barest minimum? They are not welcome at my table anymore. Give me something, ANYTHING to work with as a DM and I'll move heaven and earth to include it in the game. But, passively sit there and expect me to do the DM Monkey Dance week after week after week? Bugger that. No thank you anymore. I'm so done with that. [/QUOTE]

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