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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sammael" data-source="post: 6060496" data-attributes="member: 4475">The only scene I felt was completely out of place was the Old Bilbo/Frodo one (before the party). It felt forced, and while I understand Jackson used it to connect LOTR to the Hobbit, I think there were other ways to accomplish that. The White Council meeting in Rivendell was alright, but its inclusion probably resulted in the exclusion of other scenes - like Bilbo wandering around the Homestead, enchanted by the elves' music, making acquaintances and so on. I think that scene would have been pivotal to explaining the connection between Bilbo and the elves in LOTR - and I can only hope it will be included in the extended version.I disliked Radagast's scenes because he was portrayed as... well... an idiot. The stick insect thing in particular was grating. Also, being one of the Istari, he should not have been as afraid of Dol Guldur. Still, the foreshadowing in those scenes was pretty important, and will help with establishing the mood of Mirkwood in the second part of the film.Overall, 8/10 from me - could have used some better pacing, and some of the dwarves did not receive enough characterization, but still very enjoyable. In some ways, it was better that FOTR. In others... not so much.Effects were great too, but I was really pissed about the endless scenery drops in Goblintown which were too "extreme" for my liking. Goblin King looked too much like Wormtongue for some reason.And the Erebor/Moria flashback scenes were fantastic, easily on par with the FOTR intro.</blockquote>

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