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<blockquote data-quote="kengar" data-source="post: 1248018" data-attributes="member: 3230"><p>I think it would be possible to include nearly all the major set pieces of the Hobbit in a film. You'd just need to shorten them each a bit. For instance:</p><p></p><p>The beginning is pretty good as is. Tea Party, Story of Smaug, leave the Shire, Trolls, Rivendell. bada-bing.</p><p></p><p>Goblins, Gollum & the Ring. No big problem there.</p><p></p><p>The eagles can rescue Bilbo & the dwarfs then take them straight to the Carrock (no layover in the aeries). </p><p></p><p>Beorn can help them, but cut out his trip to the mountains to check on their story. EDIT: If you have to cut a scene, this is the one to lose. Just have the dwarfs manage to hang onto their packs so you don't have to explain how they get re-supplied before entering Mirkwood.</p><p></p><p>Condense the battle with the spiders and the dwarfs' capture by the elves into one sequence instead of two. i.e. Bilbo, etc. leave the path when they see the elves' firelight. They get separated and are attacked by the spiders. Bilbo frees the dwarfs and fights off the spiders but when he catches up to them, they've stumbled into the elves and are taken prisoner. Also shorten up their captivity by having Bilbo figure out the barrels more or less right away.</p><p></p><p>Laketown is a pretty short scene in the book, so that's fine.</p><p></p><p>Looking for the secret entrance and Bilbo's trips down the tunnel can be handled fairly quickly by reducing the number of trips from three to two. </p><p></p><p>Gotta have Bard and the Black Arrow! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The tricky part is the Battle of Five Armies. Do you include the Arkenstone & Bilbo's betrayal? What about Beorn showing up? You have to have some buildup to the fight, but too much will drag. EDIT:I also think it would be hysterical to give Orlando Bloom & John Rhys-Davies cameos in the film: Legolas at his father's court when the dwarfs are imprisoned and a younger Gimli fighting in the Battle of Five Armies.</p><p></p><p>The trip home should be kept short and should probably skip the whole "Estate Sale" thing. Or at least make it short. I can picture a scene where the Sackville-Bagginses are just about to lay formal claim to Bag End and have Bilbo declared dead when he steps through the door. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kengar, post: 1248018, member: 3230"] I think it would be possible to include nearly all the major set pieces of the Hobbit in a film. You'd just need to shorten them each a bit. For instance: The beginning is pretty good as is. Tea Party, Story of Smaug, leave the Shire, Trolls, Rivendell. bada-bing. Goblins, Gollum & the Ring. No big problem there. The eagles can rescue Bilbo & the dwarfs then take them straight to the Carrock (no layover in the aeries). Beorn can help them, but cut out his trip to the mountains to check on their story. EDIT: If you have to cut a scene, this is the one to lose. Just have the dwarfs manage to hang onto their packs so you don't have to explain how they get re-supplied before entering Mirkwood. Condense the battle with the spiders and the dwarfs' capture by the elves into one sequence instead of two. i.e. Bilbo, etc. leave the path when they see the elves' firelight. They get separated and are attacked by the spiders. Bilbo frees the dwarfs and fights off the spiders but when he catches up to them, they've stumbled into the elves and are taken prisoner. Also shorten up their captivity by having Bilbo figure out the barrels more or less right away. Laketown is a pretty short scene in the book, so that's fine. Looking for the secret entrance and Bilbo's trips down the tunnel can be handled fairly quickly by reducing the number of trips from three to two. Gotta have Bard and the Black Arrow! :) The tricky part is the Battle of Five Armies. Do you include the Arkenstone & Bilbo's betrayal? What about Beorn showing up? You have to have some buildup to the fight, but too much will drag. EDIT:I also think it would be hysterical to give Orlando Bloom & John Rhys-Davies cameos in the film: Legolas at his father's court when the dwarfs are imprisoned and a younger Gimli fighting in the Battle of Five Armies. The trip home should be kept short and should probably skip the whole "Estate Sale" thing. Or at least make it short. I can picture a scene where the Sackville-Bagginses are just about to lay formal claim to Bag End and have Bilbo declared dead when he steps through the door. :D [/QUOTE]
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