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<blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 1248409" data-attributes="member: 5868"><p>Just what I was thinking (though I'd like to see Beorn on screen). If you delete him, then you set up the BoFA so that Thorin & crew take down Bolg and win the battle, with Thorin mortally wounded in the attempt.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and a necessary pause before the last action plunge -- plus you need to introduce Bard.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By dropping the cup bit you could drop this to two; I'd prefer to see three to build suspense (cup, dialogue with Smaug, and then Smaug's gone)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you leave the Bilbo "betrayal" -- it shows how much he's grown over the course of the adventure, and helps him resolve some of the conflict. </p><p></p><p>I think the buildup to the battle might start with a few intercut scenes earlier in the movie -- a short scene of the goblins plotting revenge, a scene where the eagles observe goblins massing, and a scene where the goblins receive word that Smaug has been killed. You could keep them extremely short and still foreshadow the Battle pretty well.</p><p></p><p>A Legolas cameo (by the king's side in the halls, and/or figthing with the kin at the Battle) would be really popular with fans; I think a Gimli cameo would be less necessary -- you've already got too many dwarf characters. Who plays the dwarves? You need 13 actors (unless you work with a smaller group, certainly possible), and if you're smart you make them all taller than Ian Holm, so you don't have to used forced-perspective shots when its just the dwarves and Bilbo. Sean Connery would make a great Thorin, but he'd probably cost too much -- might be better off with 13 nobody actors.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. Certain elements have to be in for continuity for the LotR movies: finding Sting, finding the ring, giving Bilbo the mithril shirt, introducing the eagles. The Sackville Bagginses should be introduced (if only in the extended cut DVD) to establish the link to the extended DVD version of Fellowship.</p><p></p><p>Sounds like a fun project. I'd much rather see this that yet another remake of <em>King Kong</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olgar Shiverstone, post: 1248409, member: 5868"] Just what I was thinking (though I'd like to see Beorn on screen). If you delete him, then you set up the BoFA so that Thorin & crew take down Bolg and win the battle, with Thorin mortally wounded in the attempt. and a necessary pause before the last action plunge -- plus you need to introduce Bard. By dropping the cup bit you could drop this to two; I'd prefer to see three to build suspense (cup, dialogue with Smaug, and then Smaug's gone) I think you leave the Bilbo "betrayal" -- it shows how much he's grown over the course of the adventure, and helps him resolve some of the conflict. I think the buildup to the battle might start with a few intercut scenes earlier in the movie -- a short scene of the goblins plotting revenge, a scene where the eagles observe goblins massing, and a scene where the goblins receive word that Smaug has been killed. You could keep them extremely short and still foreshadow the Battle pretty well. A Legolas cameo (by the king's side in the halls, and/or figthing with the kin at the Battle) would be really popular with fans; I think a Gimli cameo would be less necessary -- you've already got too many dwarf characters. Who plays the dwarves? You need 13 actors (unless you work with a smaller group, certainly possible), and if you're smart you make them all taller than Ian Holm, so you don't have to used forced-perspective shots when its just the dwarves and Bilbo. Sean Connery would make a great Thorin, but he'd probably cost too much -- might be better off with 13 nobody actors. Agreed. Certain elements have to be in for continuity for the LotR movies: finding Sting, finding the ring, giving Bilbo the mithril shirt, introducing the eagles. The Sackville Bagginses should be introduced (if only in the extended cut DVD) to establish the link to the extended DVD version of Fellowship. Sounds like a fun project. I'd much rather see this that yet another remake of [i]King Kong[/i]. [/QUOTE]
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