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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9522599" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>It's a derisive quote about grognards from Jason Tondro. That quote shows thaco the clown as a very recently published mean spirited effort to exclude and drive away "<em>those</em> people" by today's standards. </p><p></p><p>..</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Women were allowed to open credit cards in their own names in 1974 after the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) was passed. The standards for "sexist" in the 70s were not the same as today, but it sure is easy to paint that picture otherwise with a few out of context partial quotes alongside a couple paragraphs of warning so you can write at length about gygax as if he was like you just did up there. I'm going to use an example that is far better than the rice strain one that was raised earlier in the thread to show why all of these efforts are wildly out of line.</p><p></p><p> On top of being misleading at best, none of what you are bringing up is any more relevant to spotlight in a book in the history of d&d or it's marketing than it would be to include a section about the contents∆ of the museum in Harbin China in a medical text book covering the treatment of frost bite and other medical procedures pioneered there. Of course if the goal is to give folks a solid platform to write the kind of smears that you just did then it makes total sense. </p><p></p><p>∆ they are horrific war crimes and some would even say that the museum in question presents them in a way that somehow even manages to make it seem worse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9522599, member: 93670"] It's a derisive quote about grognards from Jason Tondro. That quote shows thaco the clown as a very recently published mean spirited effort to exclude and drive away "[I]those[/I] people" by today's standards. .. Women were allowed to open credit cards in their own names in 1974 after the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) was passed. The standards for "sexist" in the 70s were not the same as today, but it sure is easy to paint that picture otherwise with a few out of context partial quotes alongside a couple paragraphs of warning so you can write at length about gygax as if he was like you just did up there. I'm going to use an example that is far better than the rice strain one that was raised earlier in the thread to show why all of these efforts are wildly out of line. On top of being misleading at best, none of what you are bringing up is any more relevant to spotlight in a book in the history of d&d or it's marketing than it would be to include a section about the contents∆ of the museum in Harbin China in a medical text book covering the treatment of frost bite and other medical procedures pioneered there. Of course if the goal is to give folks a solid platform to write the kind of smears that you just did then it makes total sense. ∆ they are horrific war crimes and some would even say that the museum in question presents them in a way that somehow even manages to make it seem worse. [/QUOTE]
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