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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9522802" data-attributes="member: 93670">Trouble is that those "every time something is directly posted" it's tenuous at best & in no way supports the current comic code levels of reactionism, the disclaimer supporting them, or the claims themselves. That leaves us with an endless repetition of <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-human-side-of-d-d-history-from-gary-gygax-to-temple-of-elemental-evil.708147/post-9519971" target="_blank">post 15</a> style attacks across the fence met with stonewalling & <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-human-side-of-d-d-history-from-gary-gygax-to-temple-of-elemental-evil.708147/post-9522774" target="_blank">72</a>.  Kinda weird to lob claims of sexism & such then stonewall & declare that you don't want to get into it when questioned for detail.No I'm not using that claim to "dispel an accusation" in any way, I explicitly asked for specific support for an accusation that was made.  The tweet that alleged sarcasm★ back in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-human-side-of-d-d-history-from-gary-gygax-to-temple-of-elemental-evil.708147/post-9522658" target="_blank">post63</a> was embedded immediately after I wrote the words "Going to link this here because it nicely addresses this claim & you don't seem to have made any effort to support that bolded bit".  The closest I might have come to shielding anything at all was to mention the ECOA of 1974 back in<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-human-side-of-d-d-history-from-gary-gygax-to-temple-of-elemental-evil.708147/post-9522599" target="_blank"> post 57</a> while questioning how accusations about gygax as a person are relevant to  a book of d&d history [one largely about early d&d].At the time I embedded the tweet I felt it was a decent choice of examples to go with what was effectively 'CitationNeeded' because the tweet was about an example that was raised in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-human-side-of-d-d-history-from-gary-gygax-to-temple-of-elemental-evil.708147/post-9521391" target="_blank">post 38</a> & the tweet had an excellent rebuttal that went well beyond mere implications of sarcasm.  Kinda weird to ignore everything else in the tweet and that it came up alongside the request for support of a claim while jumping from that to questioning the presence of sarcasm as the tweet alleges while suggesting that I'm somehow shielding something.Yes they are my words, but I didn't ask for any blind eyes to be turned.  While we are waiting for support of the claim about gygax or the early d&d content itself that I initially called for we can use that same process being applied to gygax & early d&d to acknowledge the reality of how Jason Tondro's words dial in the focus on more recent publications.My immediate reaction to thaco the clown was less "this is kinda funny" & more "that looks like a dog whistle".  I got over it & don't think that I even posted to the threads on the topic at the time & my cursory efforts with the search function don't seem to show otherwise.  Tondro's recent comments about grognards however make me question if my initial reaction was the intended one I should have walked away with though.★ another poster who was not me also said something along the lines of  "you need to understand his mind to see sarcasm in this" along with that gygax quote[USER=24318]@Future_Monkey[/USER] not so random (see above), she said a bit more than that on it too.</blockquote>

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