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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9523084" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>Really? That's not what you were doing here?</p><p></p><p>'Cause that looks like you are EXPLICITLY COMPARING Gygax's actions to the actions of other sexists in the 70s and saying "It's not as bad as what other people were doing", which inherently downplays Gygax's sexism by raising the bar on what constitutes sexism based on other people's actions.</p><p></p><p>"Sure he was sexist to the degree we're talking about, but that's not REALLY that sexist compared to other examples of sexism!"</p><p></p><p>I'm not certain there is a different interpretation to what you wrote, Max. You explicitly compared Gygax's sexism to more egregious sexism in order to present him as being less sexist than his time.</p><p></p><p>And then there's this part:</p><p></p><p>Where you allude to an "Appropriate Response" where the pendulum doesn't swing "As far" or "Possibly at all"</p><p></p><p>Where, in context, it looks like you're talking about the Pendulum being accusations of Sexism, and how we shouldn't say he was sexist to any significant degree because in the context of other people being MORE sexist than he was: he barely swings the pendulum.</p><p></p><p>This very much reads specifically as a method to minimize his sexism through comparison to other people. And if it's not that, then I fear you haven't explained your position well at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 9523084, member: 6796468"] Really? That's not what you were doing here? 'Cause that looks like you are EXPLICITLY COMPARING Gygax's actions to the actions of other sexists in the 70s and saying "It's not as bad as what other people were doing", which inherently downplays Gygax's sexism by raising the bar on what constitutes sexism based on other people's actions. "Sure he was sexist to the degree we're talking about, but that's not REALLY that sexist compared to other examples of sexism!" I'm not certain there is a different interpretation to what you wrote, Max. You explicitly compared Gygax's sexism to more egregious sexism in order to present him as being less sexist than his time. And then there's this part: Where you allude to an "Appropriate Response" where the pendulum doesn't swing "As far" or "Possibly at all" Where, in context, it looks like you're talking about the Pendulum being accusations of Sexism, and how we shouldn't say he was sexist to any significant degree because in the context of other people being MORE sexist than he was: he barely swings the pendulum. This very much reads specifically as a method to minimize his sexism through comparison to other people. And if it's not that, then I fear you haven't explained your position well at all. [/QUOTE]
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