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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 5739970" data-attributes="member: 59248">Thanks for the correction, Ernie -- yeah, I'd forgotten that the monk multiclasses no longer let you use weapons as implements.There's no such thing as a "Lullabye staff".  There's a "Lullabye Quarterstaff", which is a magical weapon just like any other weapon, and is in the staff group.  But when a magic item is referred to as a "staff", that means it's the implement, not the weapon (with specific rules for how the implement can be used as a weapon, as above).The way to express an enchantment for a quarterstaff (or really any weapon in the staff group) would be:Foo weaponWeapon: staffEnchancement bonus: Attack bonus and damage bonusCritical: 1d6 per plus(and so on).Whereas the way to express a magic staff that is an implement first and a weapon second is:Bar staffImplement: StaffEnchancement bonus: Attack bonus and damage bonusCritical: 1d6 per plus(and so on).Magical implements cannot normally be used as weapons (but there are special rules for staffs).Magical weapons -can- be used as implements if you are able to use them as implements; a lullabye quarterstaff can be used as a staff implement, as well as a frost dagger being usable as a dagger implement.</blockquote>