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The Illrigger: Why I hate this class and love what it could have been.
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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 9539979" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>The nice thing about "Oath-Eater" is that it is agnostic about if the Oath is broken; it could eat evil Oaths, it could eat good Oaths that are broken, it could eat intact good Oaths.</p><p></p><p>The class just ... eats Oaths.</p><p></p><p>Nom nom nom.</p><p></p><p>Sin-Eater couldn't (semantically) eat the Oath of a virtuous, intact Paladin.</p><p></p><p>Oath-Eater also has the nice property as setting it up thematically as an Anti-Paladin without saying Anti-Paladin directly. (But also, Anti-Warlock). And as both promises of protection and Curses are kinds of Oaths, it can eat Seals both on enemies (Curses) and on allies (Wards), giving it a bit more mechanical width.</p><p></p><p>We could even steal from the 4e Swordmage and call "defensive" Seals "Aegis"s (greek word for shield). The 4e Swordmage Aegis was a kind of "promise of protection" that when violated (the promise was broken) the Swordmage would use to defend the ally. There is also the 4e Avenger whose Oath of Enmity was a kind of "Seal" that, when fullfilled (Eaten), let the Avenger go after another target. (The Avenger promised to hunt down their target and defeat them; there where a few ways to change your target or even go after 2 targets at once)</p><p></p><p>So the Oath-Eater lore justifies stealing (some) mechanics from two very fondly remembered Gish classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 9539979, member: 72555"] The nice thing about "Oath-Eater" is that it is agnostic about if the Oath is broken; it could eat evil Oaths, it could eat good Oaths that are broken, it could eat intact good Oaths. The class just ... eats Oaths. Nom nom nom. Sin-Eater couldn't (semantically) eat the Oath of a virtuous, intact Paladin. Oath-Eater also has the nice property as setting it up thematically as an Anti-Paladin without saying Anti-Paladin directly. (But also, Anti-Warlock). And as both promises of protection and Curses are kinds of Oaths, it can eat Seals both on enemies (Curses) and on allies (Wards), giving it a bit more mechanical width. We could even steal from the 4e Swordmage and call "defensive" Seals "Aegis"s (greek word for shield). The 4e Swordmage Aegis was a kind of "promise of protection" that when violated (the promise was broken) the Swordmage would use to defend the ally. There is also the 4e Avenger whose Oath of Enmity was a kind of "Seal" that, when fullfilled (Eaten), let the Avenger go after another target. (The Avenger promised to hunt down their target and defeat them; there where a few ways to change your target or even go after 2 targets at once) So the Oath-Eater lore justifies stealing (some) mechanics from two very fondly remembered Gish classes. [/QUOTE]
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