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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 3372377" data-attributes="member: 317">I could easily turn this arguement around on those players who insist on using social skills rather than actually roleplaying a situation.&nbsp; If that player would spend some time on social interaction in real life, they wouldn't suck or feel as uncomfortable doing it at the gaming table.&nbsp; Shouldn't the person who is good at social interaction be rewarded for it in game?&nbsp; Its just as valid of an arguement as saying the guy who spends his free time cherry-picking and optomizing his characters such that the overshadow everyone else's characters is rewarded for it too.&nbsp; By relying on social skill rolls, we're also playing to the &quot;lowest common denomenator&quot; as well.But yes, the guy who spends 10 hours on character creation (especially if the campaign starts past 1st level) tweaking every possibly aspect of his character and consulting every book for the perfect feat or PrC IS a problem unless everyone else does it too.&nbsp; And yes, I've seen this done MUCH more than someone always insisting on playing in character with dialog, etc.&nbsp; Unless everyone powergames like he dos, he's killing the other player's fun much more than someone who roleplays out character dialog does to those who prefer skill rolls for Diplomacy.&nbsp; There is a happy middle ground to be found by trying to accomodate all types of players, but if the player still insists on being disruptive to the group, then the player is WRONG.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 3372377, member: 317"] I could easily turn this arguement around on those players who insist on using social skills rather than actually roleplaying a situation. If that player would spend some time on social interaction in real life, they wouldn't suck or feel as uncomfortable doing it at the gaming table. Shouldn't the person who is good at social interaction be rewarded for it in game? Its just as valid of an arguement as saying the guy who spends his free time cherry-picking and optomizing his characters such that the overshadow everyone else's characters is rewarded for it too. By relying on social skill rolls, we're also playing to the "lowest common denomenator" as well. But yes, the guy who spends 10 hours on character creation (especially if the campaign starts past 1st level) tweaking every possibly aspect of his character and consulting every book for the perfect feat or PrC IS a problem unless everyone else does it too. And yes, I've seen this done MUCH more than someone always insisting on playing in character with dialog, etc. Unless everyone powergames like he dos, he's killing the other player's fun much more than someone who roleplays out character dialog does to those who prefer skill rolls for Diplomacy. There is a happy middle ground to be found by trying to accomodate all types of players, but if the player still insists on being disruptive to the group, then the player is WRONG. [/QUOTE]

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