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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3372509" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>I found his post described my situation quite well. I don't think it is silly. Referring to people who don't scour the supplement books as "lazy" sounds pretty silly to me. Being lazy has nothing to do with it...and, there's nothing wrong with a player that <strong>likes</strong> to scour through every book either. But a powergamer that spends <em>extra</em> time (I'll say "extra" instead of "spending hours") has an advantage in a game if others are not also building their PC's in the most efficiently-maximized way possible. That's a given.</p><p></p><p>But D&D 3.5 requires a lot of balance to make things easier on the game overall. If a group doesn't need balance, then there's no problem. But my situation as a DM calls for balance. If a powergamer is making it difficult for me to run an encounter that is balanced for the party, then I have a problem. I don't scour the books as much as the powergamers in my group because my free time is spent prepping adventures, checking rules, & creating NPC's. Since they raise the bar while other players don't, then my encounters become unbalanced if I try to match their power.</p><p></p><p>Whenever I want to hurt the powergamer & make NPC's powerful enough to threaten him, that same NPC slaughters the nonpowergamers. When I make my NPC's equal to the nonpowergamers, then the powergamer slaughters the NPC & outshines the other PC's. My time is also wasted for spending an extra effort on NPC creation just to threaten the powergamer when I could have been working more on the adventure prepping.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there is anything wrong with powergaming if it works for the group. But it doesn't work for every group if the DM doesn't have the time or skills to deal with it. I don't care, or have the time, to tweak challenges for a single overpowered PC just because he spends his time reading sourcebooks more than the rest.</p><p></p><p>It all comes down to being a difference in playstyles. And if the DM or powergamer aren't willing to form some type of gentlemans agreement to make each other happy, then there's a problem. Being a powergamer isn't a problem...it's clashing playstyles that's a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 3372509, member: 18701"] I found his post described my situation quite well. I don't think it is silly. Referring to people who don't scour the supplement books as "lazy" sounds pretty silly to me. Being lazy has nothing to do with it...and, there's nothing wrong with a player that [b]likes[/b] to scour through every book either. But a powergamer that spends [i]extra[/i] time (I'll say "extra" instead of "spending hours") has an advantage in a game if others are not also building their PC's in the most efficiently-maximized way possible. That's a given. But D&D 3.5 requires a lot of balance to make things easier on the game overall. If a group doesn't need balance, then there's no problem. But my situation as a DM calls for balance. If a powergamer is making it difficult for me to run an encounter that is balanced for the party, then I have a problem. I don't scour the books as much as the powergamers in my group because my free time is spent prepping adventures, checking rules, & creating NPC's. Since they raise the bar while other players don't, then my encounters become unbalanced if I try to match their power. Whenever I want to hurt the powergamer & make NPC's powerful enough to threaten him, that same NPC slaughters the nonpowergamers. When I make my NPC's equal to the nonpowergamers, then the powergamer slaughters the NPC & outshines the other PC's. My time is also wasted for spending an extra effort on NPC creation just to threaten the powergamer when I could have been working more on the adventure prepping. I don't think there is anything wrong with powergaming if it works for the group. But it doesn't work for every group if the DM doesn't have the time or skills to deal with it. I don't care, or have the time, to tweak challenges for a single overpowered PC just because he spends his time reading sourcebooks more than the rest. It all comes down to being a difference in playstyles. And if the DM or powergamer aren't willing to form some type of gentlemans agreement to make each other happy, then there's a problem. Being a powergamer isn't a problem...it's clashing playstyles that's a problem. [/QUOTE]
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