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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 3375884" data-attributes="member: 813">I don't have the time to find all the posts related to my argument but from reading this thread I sort of agree with the assertion in the OP but not with the reasoning. Most of the examples in this thread of &quot;bad&quot; powergaming involve players who seem to be &quot;bad&quot; at social interaction with the gaming group.In the example of the player who willfully disrupts non-combat situations in order to get &quot;to the good part&quot;, well that's just rude behavior. Don't kick him out of the group because he's a powergamer, kick him out because he's rude.If &quot;powergamers&quot; whine when you say it's a core only game, kick them out. Not because they disagree with you, but because they are whining about it. It's a game. I come to game to have fun. Children whine. I don't need adults whining at me too.So called powergamers who have some social IQ and notice that others aren't playing at their level will either tone it down or leave to find a game more to their play style. It's the players who don't understand social dynamics who don't know when to leave or adjust.So in this sense, powergaming is an illusion. Bad behavior is all too real.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 3375884, member: 813"] I don't have the time to find all the posts related to my argument but from reading this thread I sort of agree with the assertion in the OP but not with the reasoning. Most of the examples in this thread of "bad" powergaming involve players who seem to be "bad" at social interaction with the gaming group. In the example of the player who willfully disrupts non-combat situations in order to get "to the good part", well that's just rude behavior. Don't kick him out of the group because he's a powergamer, kick him out because he's rude. If "powergamers" whine when you say it's a core only game, kick them out. Not because they disagree with you, but because they are whining about it. It's a game. I come to game to have fun. Children whine. I don't need adults whining at me too. So called powergamers who have some social IQ and notice that others aren't playing at their level will either tone it down or leave to find a game more to their play style. It's the players who don't understand social dynamics who don't know when to leave or adjust. So in this sense, powergaming is an illusion. Bad behavior is all too real. [/QUOTE]

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