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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 3379304" data-attributes="member: 317">Nope, nobody said anything like that.  The point is if a powergamer or a gimper wants to play in a group and insists on playing in his own style without regard to the likes of the group, he's a jerk and should be kicked out.  You just find a LOT more powergamers that are disruptive than gimpers.  Plus, sometimes gimped characters can be a lot of fun for the gorup, unlike munchkinized overpowered characters.  Once a guy I knew played a kobold expert skilled in trapmaking and locksmithing.  Poor little guy didn't have any rogue levels, but was a whiz with anything mechanical.  The other PCs in the group went out of their way to protect him and help him be accepted by society, and he eventually ended up being knighted by the king for construction of a war machine that broke a seige and saved the kingdom.  I'll remember that character for the rest of my life, while the twinked-out demigod characters some munchkins have played were completely forgettable and ended up with the person being kicked out of the group.  Besides, weren't Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin gimped characters who in the final analysis, were much more interesting than Gandalf?</blockquote>