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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5946286" data-attributes="member: 92511">Should all mages be able to turn invisible, mirror image, blur or conjure phantasmal force/minor images to trick opponents? Sure.Should all mages be able to use Color Spray, Hypnotic Pattern, create a mental image of fear so terrible it might kill you, be able to weave light and shadow to the point of being semi-real? No. That's the Illusionist's shtick.But it is still, at its essence, a full arcane caster class. There isn't any (or enough) distinction that, for me, warrants its entire own class. Theme please.Generally speaking, to my mind the Illusionist would be helpful/useful for the Exploration and Interaction pillars more than the Combat, as much as if not moreso than a "full/general" mage. But still can help out/defend themselves in combat/in a pinch/as necessary. Illusionist -Theme (or Advanced Theme, however that's going to work)-Forgoes the Mage spell list and chooses only from the Illusionist Spell List-Illusionist cantrips: Detect Illusion, Dancing Lights, Ghost Sound-Bonus to saves against Illusions and Mind-effecting magics, penalty to target saves against their illusions.-Associated Bonus Skills: Sleight of Hand, Performer, Disguise.Illusionist Spell Listlevel 1.................................level 2..............................level 3Chromatic Orb...................Blur...................................BlinkColor Spray.......................Detect Invisible..................Clairvoy./aud.Darkness/Light..................Hypnotic pattern................Illusory ScriptDisguise Self......................Invisibility...........................Invisibility SphereSilent Image......................Magic Mouth......................Major ImageSleep.................................Minor Image......................NondetectionVentriloquism.....................Mirror Image.....................Phantom SteedWall of Fog........................Obscure Object..................SuggestionI'll leave higher levels to your imaginations. But you see the pattern/get the gist.--SD</blockquote>

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