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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8066119" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I don't know about your campaigns but mine rarely have level 5 PC's contending with CR 1/4 enemies.  I could be an outlier here but I don't really think so.  Not saying I never fight or feature those CR of enemies, but not at 25% of the time at 5th level.Well that's my point, When we look at CR 3 foes the enemy hp is high enough that the PC's we are testing will spend 4 rounds attacking to down a single enemy.  The more rounds you take to down an enemy on average the less effect overkill has.  That shouldn't be a controversial statement.On average CR .25 foes die in 1 roundOn average CR .5 foes die in 2 roundsOn average CR 1 foes die in 2 roundsOn average CR 2 foes die in 3 RoundsOn average CR 3 foes die in 4 rounds*(For a level 5 fighter type character)Overkill has a huge effect on enemies you kill in 1-2 rounds.  It has a much less significant effect on enemies you kill in 4 rounds.  We could probably even get a decent estimate of the impact based on rounds to kill enemy.  But that's why I say his hp distribution is skewed in favor of overkill.  Nearly 50% of the enemies in his sim will take 1-2 rounds to kill - which are the enemies overkill matters the most against.It's a bit more complex when you bring resource using abilities into the picture as you must weight the value of the resource with the value of a dead enemy or an enemy that will die faster and also with what you can do without a resource.</blockquote>

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