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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8066134" data-attributes="member: 16814">The CR discussion is a red herring.  It allows detractors to get into distribution arguments and ignore the point.  This is why I said that overkill only matters on turns where the attacking PC kills something, and that something must therefore have between 1 and average damage hp.  How that happens, or what CR, don't really matter -- this happens in game all the time; PCs land killing blows.  So, then, the real issue is how often does it happen?  That's a good discussion, which is why I took [USER=6795602]@FrogReaver[/USER]'s assumption of 1 kill per encounter.  This finds killing blows by estimating encounter length times number of attacks.  I think this is very low, and said so, but used it anyway.  The longer it takes to land a killing blow, the less impact overkill has, but even using this assumption for frequency, the damage output of GWM vs non-GWM was less that 1 DPR different (slight edge GWM).  It was only after adding in the extra attack (and assuming there was something to attack) that GWM pulled a bit further ahead, moving from less than 1 DPR to slightly more than 4 DPR ahead.EDIT:  I got confused between discussions and misattributed who provided the frequency suggestion. This is now fixed.</blockquote>