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<blockquote data-quote="Shazman" data-source="post: 4678611" data-attributes="member: 13509"><p>Thank you Avin. Now we are getting somewhere with this discussion. Blindly defending WotC and 4E is ridiculous. Turning a wonderfully rich, diverse role playing game steeped in tradition into a mixture of a minis game and an MMORPG (in my opinion at least) to increase short term profits is not something to be defended. Having an obscene amount of errata in your brand new edition you have been working on for over three years is not something to be defended. Completely destroying your most popular campaign setting to such a degree that even novels set in 4gotten Realms are distasteful to fans in an extremely silly, illogical way just to make it fit in with the mechancis of 4E is not something to be defended. Blatantly lying about working on 4th edition when asked about it is not something to be defended. Killing the print versions of Dragon and Dungeon for the horrendously inadequate and overpriced DDI is not somethng to be defended. Making insulting comments to their customers such as saying we can shake our fists at 4E like a farmer shaking his fist at clouds, but 4E is still coming, or if our games use profession and craft skills they are not fun are not things to be defended. Increasing the prices of DDM miniatures while reducing quality is not something to be defended. Also, as Avin said, showing us the picture of the fantastically painted goliath as an example of the increase in quality of future miniature sets, and then showing us the poorly painted goliath and other horribly painted minis they are actually producing is not something to be defended. In short, defending WotC's actions over the past two years just seems silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shazman, post: 4678611, member: 13509"] Thank you Avin. Now we are getting somewhere with this discussion. Blindly defending WotC and 4E is ridiculous. Turning a wonderfully rich, diverse role playing game steeped in tradition into a mixture of a minis game and an MMORPG (in my opinion at least) to increase short term profits is not something to be defended. Having an obscene amount of errata in your brand new edition you have been working on for over three years is not something to be defended. Completely destroying your most popular campaign setting to such a degree that even novels set in 4gotten Realms are distasteful to fans in an extremely silly, illogical way just to make it fit in with the mechancis of 4E is not something to be defended. Blatantly lying about working on 4th edition when asked about it is not something to be defended. Killing the print versions of Dragon and Dungeon for the horrendously inadequate and overpriced DDI is not somethng to be defended. Making insulting comments to their customers such as saying we can shake our fists at 4E like a farmer shaking his fist at clouds, but 4E is still coming, or if our games use profession and craft skills they are not fun are not things to be defended. Increasing the prices of DDM miniatures while reducing quality is not something to be defended. Also, as Avin said, showing us the picture of the fantastically painted goliath as an example of the increase in quality of future miniature sets, and then showing us the poorly painted goliath and other horribly painted minis they are actually producing is not something to be defended. In short, defending WotC's actions over the past two years just seems silly. [/QUOTE]
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