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Message: <blockquote data-quote="xechnao" data-source="post: 4681274" data-attributes="member: 58105">I have no problem with what you are talking about. What I have a problem with is when it happened to me to express my opinion on 4e by saying that it is not a roleplaying game but rather a board game -in the kinds of "descent" or "warhammer quest" or what have you- I felt by the reactions as I was committing heresy or something.I have played those games with friends in the past extensively and they were fun. After some time I(we) got bored of them but till that moment we were having a blast. I think that when people are open to a new method when they get exposed to it the experienced innovation draws interest and people are having fun to discover what it really is about there-what is the nature of the new method -what it may serve and what not, what it may do and what it may not do.Board games and miniature games and video games are like that. I put 4e in this category too. And in this category, as a game to learn, if you are open to it -and this depends on its capacity to inspire which is rather an artistic merit- I think 4e is top notch. You can have a blast with it.Having said that I distinguish it from a roleplaying game which in my opinion they are games about decisions on the intra-person relations factor. They need game mechanics or rules but of a more universal nature whith the function of guiding you to focus on this kind of interaction. So based on how I judge this -how I see the game works- I distinguish a game as a board game or roleplaying game. The way 4e took influence from MMOs had the result to make the game less of a roleplaying game and more of a board game. And to this I believe it failed as I believe that the designers had not this in mind -did not see this that is. Of course I may very very well be wrong here and the designers really wanted this kind of result for D&D. Anyway as you said the important thing is taste and preference. There are people who want the merits of 4e and there are people who want something more of a roleplaying game (and what I mean by this is explained above and its my opinion here so please do not see this as an attack towards you). Certainly both are to be respected. I do not know if things change, if the type of criticism seen here will be ever more constructive -this kind of thread is kind of hilarious as a poster above mentions but you never know. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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