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<blockquote data-quote="1of3" data-source="post: 5034968" data-attributes="member: 48555">You have an interesting approach here. If I understand correctly, the way that hitting with various items works is - to you - a hidden rule. The players only state that they want to hit the dragon with, say, a round-house kick. They have no idea about their chances.Is D&amp;D not an RPG then? I have a pretty good idea what rolls I need to make for my fighter to hit the dragon. There is hardly anything hidden. (Unless it's not really a dragon but an illusion or something.)As for a games not needing rules, it does not matter. Any game will have rules. The most common rules for free-form storytelling, for example, are about character ownership. (You cannot state what another player's character does or thinks.)Actually, D&amp;D has pretty much the same rule. You cannot say, what my character does.Scene framing (stating what the scenery looks like) is another common topic. That is delegated mostly to the GM in D&amp;D, but player's might still be expected to explain what their home town or their rooms look like. Other RPGs like Feng Shui or Wushu allow players to state the presence of various items.Now in D&amp;D (and most other RPGs), there are dice and numbers, of course. And succesful players will consciously invoke those numbers to achieve certain results. &quot;He is bloodied. I'll use my standard action to roll Intimidate, and make him surrender.&quot;Few is hidden this situation. (The target's will defense... maybe.) But tactic there is. The player made the decision to spend a resource (the standard action) in order to try something (roll Intimidate).Therefore, you can have tactic with near to no hidden information. There is no hidden information in chess after all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="1of3, post: 5034968, member: 48555"] You have an interesting approach here. If I understand correctly, the way that hitting with various items works is - to you - a hidden rule. The players only state that they want to hit the dragon with, say, a round-house kick. They have no idea about their chances. Is D&D not an RPG then? I have a pretty good idea what rolls I need to make for my fighter to hit the dragon. There is hardly anything hidden. (Unless it's not really a dragon but an illusion or something.) As for a games not needing rules, it does not matter. Any game will [i]have[/i] rules. The most common rules for free-form storytelling, for example, are about character ownership. (You cannot state what another player's character does or thinks.) Actually, D&D has pretty much the same rule. You cannot say, what my character does. Scene framing (stating what the scenery looks like) is another common topic. That is delegated mostly to the GM in D&D, but player's might still be expected to explain what their home town or their rooms look like. Other RPGs like Feng Shui or Wushu allow players to state the presence of various items. Now in D&D (and most other RPGs), there are dice and numbers, of course. And succesful players will consciously invoke those numbers to achieve certain results. [i]"He is bloodied. I'll use my standard action to roll Intimidate, and make him surrender."[/i] Few is hidden this situation. (The target's will defense... maybe.) But tactic there is. The player made the decision to spend a resource (the standard action) in order to try something (roll Intimidate). Therefore, you can have tactic with near to no hidden information. There is no hidden information in chess after all. [/QUOTE]

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