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The Importance of Verisimilitude (or "Why you don't need realism to keep it real")
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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 9149024" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>When I went to see The Last Jedi in theaters, I was willing to forgive a lot of the movie's nonsense- and there was a lot of it. But, I said to myself, "it's a course correction, they're bringing up new plot points, I could see where this could turn into something interesting".</p><p></p><p>Then Vice-Admiral Holdo yeeted herself at lightspeed into a starship and I was like...."wait...what?". Up until now, we'd been told lightspeed jumps required calculations to make sure you went anywhere. Sure, it was occasionally mentioned if you weren't careful you could end up in a star or smacking into a large asteroid or something, but it was always on the level of "uh...rolled a nat 1".</p><p></p><p>Suddenly, everything flew out the window. The Battle of Yavin? Big deal, strap an astromech droid to an engine with a warhead and have it slam into the Death Star at hyperspeed- no need for a trench run and a 1 in a million shot with a torpedo! Need more than one? We got droids all over the place, and you'd need less engines than were lost in the suicide mission in the first place!</p><p></p><p>I mean, it makes perfect sense if you think about the science involved with just something moving at near lightspeed, let alone surpassing it by slipping through another dimension, but somehow the <strong>realistic</strong> thing broke the verisimilitude of the setting for me, because that's just not how spaceship battles work in a galaxy far, far away!</p><p></p><p>They're dogfights and bombing runs (heck, the movie even opens with spaceships that function more like WW2 bombers than, uh, space ships) with lasers that go pew pew in the void of space! Suddenly the door is opened to modern drone warfare, and in the thousands of years these people had interstellar flight, this wasn't in anyone's playbook?</p><p></p><p>I checked out of the rest of the movie. And then they fired Ryan Johnson and ignored pretty much all of Episode 8 anyways, so...lol.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 9149024, member: 6877472"] When I went to see The Last Jedi in theaters, I was willing to forgive a lot of the movie's nonsense- and there was a lot of it. But, I said to myself, "it's a course correction, they're bringing up new plot points, I could see where this could turn into something interesting". Then Vice-Admiral Holdo yeeted herself at lightspeed into a starship and I was like...."wait...what?". Up until now, we'd been told lightspeed jumps required calculations to make sure you went anywhere. Sure, it was occasionally mentioned if you weren't careful you could end up in a star or smacking into a large asteroid or something, but it was always on the level of "uh...rolled a nat 1". Suddenly, everything flew out the window. The Battle of Yavin? Big deal, strap an astromech droid to an engine with a warhead and have it slam into the Death Star at hyperspeed- no need for a trench run and a 1 in a million shot with a torpedo! Need more than one? We got droids all over the place, and you'd need less engines than were lost in the suicide mission in the first place! I mean, it makes perfect sense if you think about the science involved with just something moving at near lightspeed, let alone surpassing it by slipping through another dimension, but somehow the [B]realistic[/B] thing broke the verisimilitude of the setting for me, because that's just not how spaceship battles work in a galaxy far, far away! They're dogfights and bombing runs (heck, the movie even opens with spaceships that function more like WW2 bombers than, uh, space ships) with lasers that go pew pew in the void of space! Suddenly the door is opened to modern drone warfare, and in the thousands of years these people had interstellar flight, this wasn't in anyone's playbook? I checked out of the rest of the movie. And then they fired Ryan Johnson and ignored pretty much all of Episode 8 anyways, so...lol. [/QUOTE]
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