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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5893038" data-attributes="member: 54877">There is a lot I like about 4E (and some that I don't), most of which was covered above. My personal top three to carry forward, in order: <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Ease of prep</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Rituals</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Dynamic combats (which is actually a lot of little things)</li> </ol>That said, I'm going to give credit where credit is due, and say that I'd like to see 5E do the next iteration justice. The "ease of prep" thing was because they worked on it in 3E, tried again in 3.5 and some of the supplements, and kept going. It wasn't something 4E made up out of whole cloth. The 4E XP budget doesn't happen without the 3E CR system happening first. 5E might be able to do some minor tweaks here, but I'd say they've about got this one right. OTOH, rituals are an outgrowth of various, disparate experiments, probably some third-party d20 stuff, coupled with a real reworking of parts of magic. They made a good start here, but there is room for improvement. On this one, they are circling around the target, getting closer, but haven't nailed it in the bulls eye yet.  For things like dynamic combats, this is one where they are partly circling around a target, but it's a moving target because it is so affected by the rest the surrounding sub systems. So on that one, they can pick and choose from previous designs, but ultimately have to do the fine-tuning for the 5E system itself. It's the design goal here that needs to be retained, instead of particular elements. I'd say that D&D skills also falls mainly into this last bracket, because I don't think D&D has ever got skills nailed down perfectly. The 4E stuff works ok for 4E, the 3E stuff for 3E, and even the NWP and BECMI skills fit ok in their editions. But I don't see anything in any of them that you would adopt whole hog in a brand new system. Skills might even be a bit behind dynamic combats, because they still haven't articulated a clear vision for skills (at least not that they have shared with us).</blockquote>

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