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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 6367944" data-attributes="member: 1879">I had a thought while reading through the "Where did thief skills go?" thread.If you were making a small party and couldn't make the iconic 4 man team, you could do no better than to make one of them a Bard.He heals almost as well as a cleric, and is just as good a skill monkey as the rogue. He even gets expertise. He's not as tough as a cleric, and lacks the spike damage of a rogue, but he brings both party buffs and foe debuffs to the table. At third level you get to choose more skills thus becoming more of a rogue replacement, or better at melee, shoreing up your one shortcoming compared to the cleric. Rather than being the ideal 5th party member of 3e, the 5e Bard is now capable of covering two entire iconic positions all by his onesies.Seems like a good thing to me, but I'm sure opinions will vary.Thoughts?Who else fills up the shortman party? Paladin to cover melee and backup healing? Ranger for combat capability and covering aoe damage? Eldritch Knight?</blockquote>