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The Interoperability of OD&D, Basic, AD&D, and (kinda) 5e
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8040719" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Well, we've had this conversation, so, you know my answer. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>No, I do not think that TSR D&D games are largely compatible. At least, not to the degree where you could simply open up Keep on the Borderlands and play it using a group generated using 2e rules. The power disparity is simply too great. Things that may have been a challenge to a 1e group become laughably easy to a 2e group because of the much greater range of spells, powers, and power level (even ignoring things like Skills and Powers which I never used).</p><p></p><p>I think the simplest example would be to compare the damage output of a bog standard party - 3 fighters, a cleric, a wizard and a thief between the editions. From OD&D through Basic, then to AD&D and then 2e, that party's damage output isn't even close. Step up to about 7th level? That 2e party is easily four or five levels ahead of the Basic/Expert party and is capable of things that the B/E party could never do. </p><p></p><p>-------------</p><p></p><p>Funny you should ask that. I'm currently using the Chaos Scar modules from 4e Dungeon in my new 5e campaign. So, I'm converting a boatload of fairly short adventures. It's tricky, mostly because 5e is so sparse with its monsters. I mean, heck, 5e doesn't even have giant ants. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I've definitely turned to some 3rd party publishers to fill in the gaps.</p><p></p><p>It's honestly too early to tell how well it translates across. We're only 3 session in. I'll have a better feel for things after a couple more sessions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8040719, member: 22779"] Well, we've had this conversation, so, you know my answer. :D No, I do not think that TSR D&D games are largely compatible. At least, not to the degree where you could simply open up Keep on the Borderlands and play it using a group generated using 2e rules. The power disparity is simply too great. Things that may have been a challenge to a 1e group become laughably easy to a 2e group because of the much greater range of spells, powers, and power level (even ignoring things like Skills and Powers which I never used). I think the simplest example would be to compare the damage output of a bog standard party - 3 fighters, a cleric, a wizard and a thief between the editions. From OD&D through Basic, then to AD&D and then 2e, that party's damage output isn't even close. Step up to about 7th level? That 2e party is easily four or five levels ahead of the Basic/Expert party and is capable of things that the B/E party could never do. ------------- Funny you should ask that. I'm currently using the Chaos Scar modules from 4e Dungeon in my new 5e campaign. So, I'm converting a boatload of fairly short adventures. It's tricky, mostly because 5e is so sparse with its monsters. I mean, heck, 5e doesn't even have giant ants. :D I've definitely turned to some 3rd party publishers to fill in the gaps. It's honestly too early to tell how well it translates across. We're only 3 session in. I'll have a better feel for things after a couple more sessions. [/QUOTE]
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