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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 4069716" data-attributes="member: 1190">Hmmm...I agree that 3e isn't broken above 3rd level and below 15th level. There it shines. Before and after things are rocky....in fact, this assessment (that 3e isn't broken within the "sweet spot") is one of the core premises they have commented on with the new edition.In terms of sacred cows, this has always been hard for me. I will admit to being fairly counter culture and nontraditional. I would argue that many of us came to the game with some of that nontradiitonal / nonconformist mentality (I have yet to see a school with an RPG group made up of the social A-list). But then I watch as the many people hold to the traditional components of the game not because they work or are interesting but because they are traditional sacred cows. I don't get that. That may or may not relate to YOUR reason (I don't claim to know) but I always raise an eyebrow about the sacred cow issue.Back onto the core topic, the trek issue is clearly artificial and forced. There are more editions than got numbers, there is nothing clear that can declare conclusively that 2e sucked more than any other edition. If one goes just based upon time, it lasted 9+ years which is a pretty good run.And when there were far fewer other choices so if you were going to do fantasy role play, it was D&D or your own.**begin sarcasm** Perhaps that was the charm. Perhaps 1e sucked so much that everyone just HRed everything but still called it 1e (cause really, who could tell the difference) and because everyone did that, those who played it extensively (I came in at the end of 1e) love it because of some masocistic / Stockholm syndrome-esque rememberance of the pleasant torment it was. **end sarcasm**DC</blockquote>

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