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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5690263" data-attributes="member: 54877">Why do the earlier decision need to be uninformed? &nbsp;See, that kind of thing comes up every we have this discussion.&nbsp; &quot;I want highly story driven games, and I can't get them if the DM doesn't drive the story.&nbsp; Ergo, that is the only way to get them.&quot;&nbsp; And then there is some characterization of why that is so, usually involving some games where the DM doesn't drive the story, and also did some pretty lousy DMing for what was desired.&nbsp;It doesn't seem to register then, when several of us point out that you can have highy story driven games with lots of informed, little meaningful decisions leading inevitably to bigger informed meaningful decisions.&nbsp; Or if it does register, someone says this is rare or hard or something else like it.&nbsp; No, if the masses want a good story, they'll have to take the one the DM provides, and that's that!&nbsp; Now, I know IQ is problematic, but let's just say that mine is safely away from the boundaries of idiot and genius, and leave it at that.&nbsp; This ain't rocket science I'm doing.&nbsp;It seems to me that when people say, &quot;I haven't seen X, therefore X doesn't happen,&quot; in the face of others talking about how X works, the only useful characterization that arises out of the statement regards their lack of experience with X.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5690263, member: 54877"] Why do the earlier decision need to be uninformed? See, that kind of thing comes up every we have this discussion. "I want highly story driven games, and I can't get them if the DM doesn't drive the story. Ergo, that is the only way to get them." And then there is some characterization of why that is so, usually involving some games where the DM doesn't drive the story, and also did some pretty lousy DMing for what was desired. It doesn't seem to register then, when several of us point out that you can have highy story driven games with lots of informed, little meaningful decisions leading inevitably to bigger informed meaningful decisions. Or if it does register, someone says this is rare or hard or something else like it. No, if the masses want a good story, they'll have to take the one the DM provides, and that's that! Now, I know IQ is problematic, but let's just say that mine is safely away from the boundaries of idiot and genius, and leave it at that. This ain't rocket science I'm doing. It seems to me that when people say, "I haven't seen X, therefore X doesn't happen," in the face of others talking about how X works, the only useful characterization that arises out of the statement regards their lack of experience with X. [/QUOTE]

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