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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 4748082" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>I think that to an extent Joe is right. I don't think actual tabletop gaming is going to go away, but it is definitely going to change with the proliferation of these gadgets. It already has. </p><p></p><p>Despite the cry of apparent sacrilege in using computerized dice rollers, I think if people can get over the actual various rulesets of the games changing drastically every 5 or so years they'll get over using different tools in which we play those games. </p><p></p><p>Someone above mentioned the ability to spread out 6 to 9 pieces of information in front of him and how a computer cant do that due to limited real estate on the screen. I''m not going to call call <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> on that one because everyone's brain processes information differently. But I can tell you on OS X I can have multiple apps (with multiple pages open in each app) and jump to those pages relatively easily. It depends on your level of proficiency I guess. I do the initial investment of time in learning how something works to make my life easier in the long run. Some people dont feel that initial investment is worth while, I work with users and see this everyday so I get it. But there are ways to use a computer (no matter what OS you prefer) to make your work a little more streamlined than it was before. </p><p></p><p>I also wasnt fond of computerized dice rollers either, but if I'm on the train or on my lunch break at work and I'm working on something for a game or even when I'm at home and don't feel like getting up off of the couch to find my dice bag, that dice roller is a big help. </p><p></p><p>There's also something that very few gamers here have touched on that to me is the main bane of tabletop gaming. Moreso than edition wars of swiftly shifting rulesets. REAL LIFE. </p><p></p><p>I've found as I've gotten older it's harder to get together with friends to game. It just is. I live and work in NYC and am married with a child. There are a million things going on in our lives as well as with our friends. The times where I can lay out time to game may be inconvenient for other people in the group. Or in some cases our central meeting point (in Manhattan) might be unavailable. When you have people in your group who are coming from NJ and Kew Gardens Queens, it's a pain in the ass to have them travel from one extreme to another. It just is. Some of you don't mind, but when for some people time is a premium it's just not feasible. </p><p></p><p>My point is as people get older they get busier or they relocate. And these devices and tech that some of you so casually disparage are a link to keeping gaming alive for more and more of us. In 10 or 20 years as gamers we'll either be deeper in the the tech to facilitate play or the hobby will shrink even further. </p><p></p><p>WOTC has (had?) the right idea as far as their digital game table goes. I don't think they're the ones to properly implement it as their track record is pretty bad. But they understand something that almost no one in this thread is even addressing, to keep gaming alive you have to keep gamers TOGETHER. And as we get older and busier that gets harder to do. What can and WILL fill that gap is technology. The same overhyped pieces of crap that you're talking about right now. I'd love to play a mini session over wi-fi on my lunch break or on the train home, with my buddies. I'd love to pull an all-nighter again like I used to when in school, except now instead of being there we would be able to do it via a mobile version of Fantasy Grounds or D20Pro. </p><p></p><p>So again I think Joe is right, I just think that it's gonna happen sooner than 10-20 years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 4748082, member: 9213"] I think that to an extent Joe is right. I don't think actual tabletop gaming is going to go away, but it is definitely going to change with the proliferation of these gadgets. It already has. Despite the cry of apparent sacrilege in using computerized dice rollers, I think if people can get over the actual various rulesets of the games changing drastically every 5 or so years they'll get over using different tools in which we play those games. Someone above mentioned the ability to spread out 6 to 9 pieces of information in front of him and how a computer cant do that due to limited real estate on the screen. I''m not going to call call :):):):):):):):) on that one because everyone's brain processes information differently. But I can tell you on OS X I can have multiple apps (with multiple pages open in each app) and jump to those pages relatively easily. It depends on your level of proficiency I guess. I do the initial investment of time in learning how something works to make my life easier in the long run. Some people dont feel that initial investment is worth while, I work with users and see this everyday so I get it. But there are ways to use a computer (no matter what OS you prefer) to make your work a little more streamlined than it was before. I also wasnt fond of computerized dice rollers either, but if I'm on the train or on my lunch break at work and I'm working on something for a game or even when I'm at home and don't feel like getting up off of the couch to find my dice bag, that dice roller is a big help. There's also something that very few gamers here have touched on that to me is the main bane of tabletop gaming. Moreso than edition wars of swiftly shifting rulesets. REAL LIFE. I've found as I've gotten older it's harder to get together with friends to game. It just is. I live and work in NYC and am married with a child. There are a million things going on in our lives as well as with our friends. The times where I can lay out time to game may be inconvenient for other people in the group. Or in some cases our central meeting point (in Manhattan) might be unavailable. When you have people in your group who are coming from NJ and Kew Gardens Queens, it's a pain in the ass to have them travel from one extreme to another. It just is. Some of you don't mind, but when for some people time is a premium it's just not feasible. My point is as people get older they get busier or they relocate. And these devices and tech that some of you so casually disparage are a link to keeping gaming alive for more and more of us. In 10 or 20 years as gamers we'll either be deeper in the the tech to facilitate play or the hobby will shrink even further. WOTC has (had?) the right idea as far as their digital game table goes. I don't think they're the ones to properly implement it as their track record is pretty bad. But they understand something that almost no one in this thread is even addressing, to keep gaming alive you have to keep gamers TOGETHER. And as we get older and busier that gets harder to do. What can and WILL fill that gap is technology. The same overhyped pieces of crap that you're talking about right now. I'd love to play a mini session over wi-fi on my lunch break or on the train home, with my buddies. I'd love to pull an all-nighter again like I used to when in school, except now instead of being there we would be able to do it via a mobile version of Fantasy Grounds or D20Pro. So again I think Joe is right, I just think that it's gonna happen sooner than 10-20 years. [/QUOTE]
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