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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silverthrone" data-source="post: 379037" data-attributes="member: 7445">Super heroes do not just lift huge amounts of weight with thier strength though. They do actually inflict enormous amounts of damage. Someone like Superman could shatter the moon if he punched it as hard as he can. Silver Surfer can shatter planets with the power cosmic, as can Thor with his godly esence strike.I won't even start with what Goku would be capable of.The D20 rules simply do not integrate well with super heroes at all. I still do not understand the push of D20 as a multigenre rules set, as it is basically the same rules D&D has used since 2e, and they were not much good for anything but D&D even then.A class and level system is bad enough to try and make multigenre, but actually throwing in such limited stats, it is a horrid system to try and make multgenre.Hulk could lift way over 100,000 tons with ease, having lifted far more than that during Secret Wars.Supes could lift over a trillion tons without even trying hard.Superman One Million could punch, off pure strength alone, through the time barrier.</blockquote>