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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 384463" data-attributes="member: 505">Okay, in my years of reading comics, here's some of what I've got (although you should bear in mind that I haven't collected anything from Marvel for a several years and, for the past few, am only regularly reading 4 DC books, so some things may have changed).The Hulk is "Class 100" strength.  This means that he can lift over 100 tons when enraged.The only time I've ever seen the Hulk reach the maximum level of strength was back when John Byrne was doing the book (in the '80's, I think).  During this story arc, the Hulk and Banner were seperated and the Hulk was a mindless destruction machine.The Hulk had just gone several rounds with Doc Samson (who can lift 75 or so tons) and defeated him when the Avengers showed up.During this fight, the Hulk's strength kept increasing and increasing.  Eventually, the Avenger's noticed that he wasn't getting any stronger, and, in fact, was weakening.To bring him down, it took:HerculesWonder ManIron Man (silver armor)Sub-MarinerShe-HulkCaptain Marvel (the woman with energy powers)Captain AmericaVisionHawkeyeMockingbirdTigraWaspI'm pretty sure that I'm missing more.  If I'm not mistaken, every Avenger of the time except Thor was present. Anyway, it turns out that the Hulk was weakened by being seperated from Banner, so he wasn't even at full power.There have been many stories which have shown Hercules and Thor as having equal strength (that's probably Marvel's official policy), this means that the Hulk far stronger than him, as well (to be fair, while Hercules is as strong as Thor, Thor has other abilities that make him more powerful overall).    I also remember a comic where the Hulk was "enhanced" by the villain Apocalypse.  In his new, more powerful state, he lifted one of the pyramids (which leads me to believe that this would be beyond his ability normally).Now, I once saw a special on the pyramids on tv which said that the Great Pyramid weighed in the millions of tons (I don't recall the exact weight), so that should give you an idea as to the Hulk's limits.Also, the Hulk, according to Marvel, could not survive a near miss from a nuclear bomb.Now, bearing how powerful the Hulk is in mind, the Silver Surfer has taken him out at least once with little effort.  The Surfer has also flown through stars. Over at DC, the Who's Who (their guide to their characters) said that Superman could easily lift the Great Pyramid (millions of tons, remember).It also says that he can survive a direct hit from a nuclear weapon, which has been shown in the comics (What's the DR for taking a hit by a nuke, btw? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />). This probably puts Superman and Silver Surfer in the same catagory (more powerful than gods such as Thor and Hercules).  Actually, SS would be a bit more powerful (like the Hercules/Thor example, SS has far more ablities than Supes).Also in DC, Darkseid is shown being the equal of classic gods like Zues and Odin (who are probably more powerful than Thor).  There was a Marvel/DC crossover not too long ago, and, IIRC, Darkseid defeated the Surfer (so Odin could probably take down Supes and SS).However, he was nowhere near a match for Galactus.Now, as to the cosmic characters, the In-Betweener is equal to Galactus.  In fact, they are counterparts of one another, filling the role of balancers on a universal level (there was a Silver Surfer comic in which the In-Betweener tried to take over Galactus' position).Also, in an issue of Fantastic Four, the Beyonder was revealed as not being as powerful as everyone thought.  He was, in fact, only a half-formed cosmic cube.This means that he never really destroyed Death, and was, in fact, only as powerful as the Molecule Man (who had the other half of the power).  Eventually, they merged and became the current Cube. Even still, the Beyonder was capable of causing galaxies to simply cease to exist and creating "pocket" universes.Eternity is the incarnation of this universe (which probably means that there are other beings in other universes), and Death is his equal.The Living Tribunal, I believe, was in charge of overseeing the multiverse, making him much, much more powerful than Eternity (and most likely the most powerful being in existence).Now, what does this all mean?  I have no idea.  I'm just glad I finally found a use for all this useless information! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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