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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Piscivorous" data-source="post: 5342694" data-attributes="member: 96197">First post - been playing since the little white box. Got 2E but didn't play it. Got back in when 3E when I realized my B&N employee discount meant really cheap 3E and 3.5 books. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Dabbled in 4E, but I hate it. Anywho.....Certainly spellcasters become more powerful. But they'd all be middle aged before they got 2nd level spells without melee characters and rogues to keep them from dying before they can get powerful.The problem arises when their power relegates fighters [as someone said earlier] to 5th tier status at the higher levels. Making any of the core classes obsolete, at any level, is a huge flaw in DMing. Players will start shying away from other classes in favor of spellcasters if they go relatively unchecked. Certainly a few will play a fighter for a few levels and then switch to spellcasters. On the same token, being overly aggressive versus casters early can have the opposite effect, where no one wants to play a caster.</blockquote>