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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Summer-Knight925" data-source="post: 5363971" data-attributes="member: 80297">Did he just get crited with the ban-hammer? COOL! and its all relative, wizards and sorcerers (why not add warmage, warlock, even druid to this list [yes, druids can get some cool spells like transmute rock to lava, 20d6? OMG!]) are no more powerful than a fighter 10d6 fireball....max 60 points+3 flaming longsword, three attacks, 18 str (+4)...max 63, not to mention the chance of a crit and thats just a fireball vs. longsowrd lightening bolt vs. greatsword?magic missile vs. dart? (for ye low levelers out thar!) its all balanced, just read between the lines, look farther than what is simply infront of you, i can tell we have alot of hack-and-slash players here, look at the tomb of horrors(favorite OF ALL TIME), you had to think or the new Crypt of the Devil Lich....my favored soul figured out all the riddles and such, but thats just roleplay and is irrelevent actually a wizard has spells per day (max of 4 in any spell level) after that, theyre done...and thats if they prepared the good spells, or else its "My wizard is watching the battle looking for a worthy foe" lie...yeah, its a lie, your disintegrate spell, your save DC is what? 20? yeah, the fort. on that giant, the base save can beat that with a 2 on the d20 maybe its the fact people look at the base value, not the sum, but a fighter can use that vorpal sword they found, which kills more people then finger of death (statistics show that for every 5 people who die from a vorpal sword, 3 die from finger of death [totally bs stats btw]) so what it comes down to is this.... all classes are balanced, they wont work without the others, thats why they test, why there are rules for creating classes, so there is no god class, no bruce lee class (thats a monk at 20th lvl...just sayin) and no jedi....................atleast in the core books <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> so yeah....the reason they are seen as godlike is because when you hear wizard I hear gandalf...who (if the hobbits were 1st levels) was like...15th, and aragorn was 7th in fiction they are seen as all powerful, and they are, but Bards dont write tales of wizards, they write of fighters, or rogues (or burglars like Bilbo)wizards are powerful, but without the fighter to be in the dragons face, the wizard would be sold in tin cans sized for dragon claws, they need them, like everyone needs a rogue and everyone needs a cleric (or 2, thats always good) you can make do without a wizard, I mean...when they finally get powerful, youre fighting single powerful monsters, no longer hordes or orcs, back then the fighter would wade through like a Dawsin's Creek montage through a field, it wasnt fair, then at higher levels it seems unfair once more...this is how they balance</blockquote>

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