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<blockquote data-quote="Skepticultist" data-source="post: 7739258" data-attributes="member: 6898719"><p>That's because "sacred" is an extremely wishy-washy, vague term that has no specific or concrete action. Like the statement "The magic would be subtle and beautiful and full of mystery." This is poetic, but completely ungameable. Nobody, not even SMHWorlds, really knows what it means or how it would translate into gameplay.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's reductive and plays dangerous close to the Noble Savage stereotype. I live inbetween two different reservations, and Native Americans are the second largest ethnic group after whites, and while it would probably be wrong to assume too much about pre-colonial natives from their modern ancestors, I can say with quite a bit of assurance that Native Americans are people, and like all people, some of them are spiritual and some of them are profane, some of them decent people and some of them are degenerates. There are industrious, honest, hard-working natives, and there are lazy, dishonest and criminal natives -- just like white people. I strongly, strongly suspect that this has <em>always</em> been the case.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, you don't actually have to give a rat's ass about other people getting offended. If you're some kind of content creator, selling a product on the market then you might need to care, but if you're just a DM running a home game for friends then the only people you have to worry about offending are the people at the table. And my experience is that while the pathologically offended are extremely common online and seem to exercise undue influence, in real life those people are few and far between, and lack any real authority. But I mostly quoted you to compare your statement with this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And yet, these articles do the <strong>exact opposite</strong> of that. They <strong>assume</strong> that everyone is an ignorant racist who will cause disrespect, and create undue anxiety over using other cultures as the base for their play. All of these articles are written from the modern liberal progressive viewpoint, and that viewpoint is <em>extremely</em> judgmental and prone to self-righteousness -- and that becomes especially true the more trivial the subject matter being discussed. When you have liberal progressives opinioning on pop culture, there is a very strong tendency to make mountains out of molehills.</p><p></p><p>If you want to set a campaign in a pre-colonial America among native tribes, and you want to use Hiawatha from the 1E Deities & Demigods book, but you want to also say that he's a famous dragonslayer because you've decided that Native American warriors taking down dragons is awesome (and it is), then that's <strong>okay</strong>.</p><p></p><p>And if someone gets offended because of it, then that's <strong><em>their</em></strong> problem. That's them thinking that "respect" means doing things the way they imagine them, thinking "respect" means ceding power and authority to them and their self-righteousness. You don't actually have to care about their opinions. They certainly don't care about yours.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Skepticultist, post: 7739258, member: 6898719"] That's because "sacred" is an extremely wishy-washy, vague term that has no specific or concrete action. Like the statement "The magic would be subtle and beautiful and full of mystery." This is poetic, but completely ungameable. Nobody, not even SMHWorlds, really knows what it means or how it would translate into gameplay. I think it's reductive and plays dangerous close to the Noble Savage stereotype. I live inbetween two different reservations, and Native Americans are the second largest ethnic group after whites, and while it would probably be wrong to assume too much about pre-colonial natives from their modern ancestors, I can say with quite a bit of assurance that Native Americans are people, and like all people, some of them are spiritual and some of them are profane, some of them decent people and some of them are degenerates. There are industrious, honest, hard-working natives, and there are lazy, dishonest and criminal natives -- just like white people. I strongly, strongly suspect that this has [I]always[/I] been the case. The thing is, you don't actually have to give a rat's ass about other people getting offended. If you're some kind of content creator, selling a product on the market then you might need to care, but if you're just a DM running a home game for friends then the only people you have to worry about offending are the people at the table. And my experience is that while the pathologically offended are extremely common online and seem to exercise undue influence, in real life those people are few and far between, and lack any real authority. But I mostly quoted you to compare your statement with this: And yet, these articles do the [B]exact opposite[/B] of that. They [B]assume[/B] that everyone is an ignorant racist who will cause disrespect, and create undue anxiety over using other cultures as the base for their play. All of these articles are written from the modern liberal progressive viewpoint, and that viewpoint is [I]extremely[/I] judgmental and prone to self-righteousness -- and that becomes especially true the more trivial the subject matter being discussed. When you have liberal progressives opinioning on pop culture, there is a very strong tendency to make mountains out of molehills. If you want to set a campaign in a pre-colonial America among native tribes, and you want to use Hiawatha from the 1E Deities & Demigods book, but you want to also say that he's a famous dragonslayer because you've decided that Native American warriors taking down dragons is awesome (and it is), then that's [B]okay[/B]. And if someone gets offended because of it, then that's [B][I]their[/I][/B] problem. That's them thinking that "respect" means doing things the way they imagine them, thinking "respect" means ceding power and authority to them and their self-righteousness. You don't actually have to care about their opinions. They certainly don't care about yours. [/QUOTE]
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