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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Bowman" data-source="post: 7740008" data-attributes="member: 6925649">Precisely, In Europe, if you didn't want to live under a King, you had to topple that King with a Revolution and then establish something in his place, the French Revolution demonstrates just how dangerous that can be, especially if you include the Napoleonic War as an extension of that revolution, a lot of people died in it, a lot more than in the American Revolution. You know why that is? Because the American colonists didn't not have top topple King George the Third and his Parliament in order to win their revolution, because they lived on another continent from England, the French didn't have that option, if they wanted to get rid of their King, they had to literally get rid of their king by killing him, and the other European nations reacted to that by trying to reestablish the Bourbons on the throne of France, this precipitated a continental war in Europe, which led to Napoleons March into Russia with the resulting mass destruction and loss of lives that overshadowed the death toll of the American Revolution. So you see, colonization of wilderness areas has its advantages as far as developing new forms of government is concerned. If our ancestors didn't do this, they would be stuck in the same situation as the French people were in. Their first revolution did not succeed, it introduced a new form of tyranny. North America allowed us to build a country in relative peace compared to what was going on in Europe at that time. Was this good or bad? I think it was an overall good, despite the bad that happened to the Native Americans in our formative years. The Native Americans lived a life that their ancestors lived for thousands of generations every since the first ones crossed the Bering Straight into North American from Asia. When the ice melted, the oceans rose and separated them from contact with the rest of the world, so they continued their stone age existence while Europe and Asia advanced, what happened when the Europeans built their first ocean crossing ships was that they used them, how could you expect otherwise? The use of their ships and their travel across the oceans spread European diseases that the native Americans were previously isolated from and from which they developed no natural resistance to. Once first contact was made, there was no stopping the spreading of those diseases, the Europeans couldn't stop it if they wanted to, because they didn't know how. Despite their advancements, they didn't know how diseases spread or how to stop them. Maybe if we colonized the New World in the 21st century we could have taken precautions to save many lives, but what were the chances of that? History is a learning experience, and we made many mistakes and we can't undo them, we can learn from those mistakes, but those mistakes have been made. We can only move on from here and assess the good from the bad, and when looking back on history, I can see a lot of good that our ancestors have done.</blockquote>

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