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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5372656" data-attributes="member: 82504">Knighted Lord  "wearing armor is easy convincing the council of elders now that is hard"  prereq: Warlord, Chainmail Proficiency and Trained in Diplomacy  benefits proficiency with plate armor and +2 on history.RationaleI love Knights (Arthur and Lancelot and Gawaine but also Charlemagne  and Roland for the win) and based on the offerings of Essentials  previews ... So Does the current D&D Development Team and they do it  with a passion 2 of the the first 8 classes arguably target Knight  archetypes... wow.  Ok call me way too picky - I am not massively happy with how either the knight class or the cavalier invokes  a Knight....  I posted an earlier blog which basically presented a  house rule opening up the fighting man to being a skilled individual - I  think heroic fighters are skilled in more fiction than not and the old  stereotype should be dead. My take on the knight is a tad different I want to start with well  not Arthur or Charlemange specifically but with the educated nobleman  raised to lead men... the Knighted Lord... The players handbook already had  a class who was strongly oriented towards this already it was called  the Warlord (so maybe the players handbook also favored 2 knights eh?  Paladin and Warlord) - the flavor text of this class mentions the Knight  Commander! The warlord is close but misses on perhaps only a very small arena.  The Warlord lacks the shining armor I hybrid with Paladin to give him it  but that honestly that seems like a heavy handed thing to have to do  especially when such a Knighted Lord might have less than Holy  personality in an era where might made right. CON and the Knight Realism divorces stamina from plate armor strangely enough  the stuff  is actually easier to wear than chain in this regards (assuming the  weather isnt overtly hot) And In spite of being known as the greatest knight/fighter of all  history Lancelot was also known as being of poor endurance he was often  found sleeping at inopportune times (and subsequently oggled by females)  - sure most definitely a paladin and Like Arthur also of Auspicious  birth (see hit points and being raised by the lady of the Lake). So about the Knighted Lord our Warlord whos fluff and function is so  close already to a knight shoud he be stranded at scale without having  to unrealistically and unmythically have to pump his constitution???? What to do? eh.... one thought was just to reduce/remove the CON  requirement for Plate... that might be one solution. .. The melee  oriented battlefront warlord could then take his Plate without having to  pump constitution or engage in hybriding. The other thought i had was to have a feat like the Armored Warlord  -- perhaps one which skipped scale and jumped to Plate armor and brought  another feature of the nobility in that thing called diplomacy.... how about calling it knighted lord.Do we need another way to build a Knight or is that a King? No but heck it can be fun.</blockquote>

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